Ya, my grandfather probably wasn’t pleased with the 24% price increase between his 1933 Ford, $460, and his 1934 Ford, $570. The ‘34 did have a Mohair interior though.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
Truck prices are getting ridiculous. Started shopping and an identical F-150 to my 2019 stickers for $20k more. We're talking mi-line XLT trim and not the higher end.

Wait until the new Union pay hikes kick in if you think your 1500 Ram is expensive....

Well, signed papers tonight on a 2023 Jeep Gladiator. Crazy what prices have done. Spring of 2019 when I bought my F-150, the Gladiator had just come out, sticker prices were high and dealer markups even more obscene. Sticker price on Gladiators was close to $60k with dealer markups added on. Sticker price on my F-150 was $52k and I bought it for $37k after $10k incentive and bargaining.

Fast forward to the latest truck shopping safari. A 2023 F-150 configured exactly like my 2019 stickers for $72k with a $400 incentive. Sticker on the Gladiator was $64k and after bargaining and incentives I paid $54k. Trade in on my F-150 was $32k, so basically I owned a truck for 5 years for $5k.

So tonight I paid less for a truck than I would've paid 5 years ago for the same truck and I traded in a truck that I couldn't afford to buy new today.

No the Gladiator isn't as practical of comfortable as the F-150, but it's fun and I intend to have a lot of fun with it.

Nice V-tail, that 356B was a classic! But you're right the German cars from back then tended to be pretty basic, but very well built for their time. How times have changed....

The 356B Cabriolet was on my [lust] list for years. Close to purchase a number of times but my meager paycheck at the time wasn't cooperative.

LOL I know signewt Porche prices have risen faster than our income so they keep getting farther away!

I wanted a traditional 911 since the 70's and around early 2000's (when I thought I had enough disposable income) started looking at used, air cooled ones. The prices on those I looked at just seemed out of line for what I would get so I held off and just kept looking, and every year (rather than come down) they went up more. By 2015 or so I finally gave up.

If I had my choice I would look for a used F250 Ford Transit van (awd or 4x4). I see lots of trucks that were probably used prior for oil service trucks but probably less practical than a van. Need to start saving up.



Still the dream...

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I'd had some used cars, but the first new car that I ever bought was a brand new Porsche for $3,450.00. Not a typo, that's three thousand four hundred fifty dollars.

Wow V-Tail, what was it? The earliest new "inexpensive" Porches I can recall were 914's from the early 70's (I had become very interested in cars in 1970 at 17 years of age) and they were around $5,000, maybe a little more even.

A 1963 356B.

Looked just like the one in the photo below, white with red leather interior. No radio (I added a Blaupunkt later), no AC, manual crank windows, drum brakes (the last model with drums, the 356C introduced disks), the heater was a joke, didn't even have seat belts -- they were not standard in 1963, but I had the dealer install them before I took the car.

One of my favorite Jay Leno videos. Omg, the simplicity of it all.

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Originally posted by ridewv:

I wanted a traditional 911 since the 70's

My second Porsche was a 1972 911T, bought from Porsche dealer in the Chicago area, $7,200, one year old with about 8,000 miles on it. Had it for about six months before it was stolen. Keep an eye out for VIN 9111110660, y'all -- it's mine!

Looked pretty much like this one (except I think I remember the fuel filler being on the starboard side):

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by ridewv:

I wanted a traditional 911 since the 70's

My second Porsche was a 1972 911T, bought from Porsche dealer in the Chicago area, $7,200, one year old with about 8,000 miles on it. Had it for about six months before it was stolen. Keep an eye out for VIN 9111110660, y'all -- it's mine!

Looked pretty much like this one (except I think I remember the fuel filler being on the starboard side):

My first Porsche was a 72 911T as well. Man, what awesome times I had with that car. Mine was an orangish color. The filler cap on the starboard side you are referring to was actually an oil filler, it was only available on the 72's as they deleted it in 73 due to people putting gas in the oil line.

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
I get a couple of emails a month from the local Toyota dealer wanting me to trade in my truck, a 10 year old Tundra with <70K miles on it.

Tempting, but even if they gave me what I paid for it 10 years ago, I'd have to put another $30K with it to replace it.

Add to that the insulting interest rates and the fact the Toyota (AFAIK) doesn't offer a V8 Tundra any more and IT AIN'T HAPPENING, SCOOTER!

It's still solid, nicely broken in, and I can make a LOT of repairs for the monthly payment on a new one.

Yep - the Tundra went turbo/hybrid in 2022. The Sequoia went in 2023...which is why I replaced my 2005 with a 2022. Properly maintained I expect that V8 to run pretty much forever.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

The ‘34 did have a Mohair interior

You don't see many of those in the current market. The Mo is practically extinct, I think it's illegal to harvest the hair.

According to car edge, 500 under invoice on 2024 mazda's through the end of the year. 1000 off 2023

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by trapper189:

The ‘34 did have a Mohair interior

You don't see many of those in the current market. The Mo is practically extinct, I think it's illegal to harvest the hair.

Well, there’ll be no Mo money to be made from them then. I wonder if Curlyhair would be an acceptable substitute.

Nice ride V tail. My father brought a 1955 or ‘56 356B cabriolet back from Germany. He was one of the founders of the PCA.

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Nice ride V tail. My father brought a 1955 or ‘56 356B cabriolet back from Germany. He was one of the founders of the PCA.

I'm pretty sure that the 356B was produced from 1959 to 1963.

Early 1955 would have been a 356, without the 'B' suffix. Late 1955 to 1959 would have been a 356A.

I was driving a VW Beetle and stopped behind the vehicle in the picture below. I wanted to pull up next to him and ask if he had any Grey Poupon, but he went a different direction. Anyway, what is it?:

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Originally posted by trapper189:

I was driving a VW Beetle and stopped behind the vehicle in the picture below. <snip> what is it?

Looks like a mid / late 1950's 356A coupe.

I think interest in mid-size and lighter duty 1/2 ton trucks has been growing at the expense of heavy duty versions. One reason for the decline is initial cost the other is the overall size and ongoing operating costs. A lot of people are starting to realize that a truck oversized for their needs isn't better, in most ways it's worse.

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the first new car that I ever bought was a brand new Porsche for $3,450.00. Not a typo, that's three thousand four hundred fifty dollars.

Mine was a red 1966 Triumph TR4-A IRS & wire wheels for $3400.00 Sold it in 1971 for $800.00. 1971 Corolla $1600, 973 Datsun 240Z was $3700, My 1974 Datsun 260Z 2+2 was $6400, 1976 VW Scirocco $4200. The difference was in 1978 I was making $27,000 a year & wife #1 was making $18,000 a year.