Moron who thinks a pistol makes him Superman gets shot more than a dozen times

April 17, 2024, 12:11 AM

newtoSig765

quote:
Originally posted by Rawny:
He got mag dumped on with a 9mm, then three blasts with a shotgun and was still mouthing off? It took a fourth hit to hush him up...

I thought the same thing, watching the video (OK, I'll admit, I watched it four or five times!

). I have a lot tied up in 9mm now, guns, ammo (both +P and +P+), despite growing up on 45ACP and being a fervent follower of Jeff Cooper. I guess it's a good thing that the BG was knocked down by the first round or two, which would in theory create time to take control of the situation, but I'd have preferred DRT.

A whole bunch of years ago, a close friend was Chicago Police and described an encounter in which some sort of SWAT or anti-gang unit took on an angry druggie, about a dozen cops armed with Browning HP's with primitive 9mm ammo, got 18 rounds into his torso with minimal effect, shut him down with one round of 12GA buck.

My takeaway is that I need more range time!

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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
-- H L Mencken

I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is.
-- JALLEN 10/18/18

April 17, 2024, 12:14 AM

tleddy

quote:
Originally posted by Rawny:
He got mag dumped on with a 9mm, then three blasts with a shotgun and was still mouthing off? It took a fourth hit to hush him up. He must be Rasputin incarnate.

Time to rethink my home defense strategy. The 12ga is now the primary.

“Time to rethink…” is absolutely true! I know human beings are hard to kill, but absorbing that many rounds and still moving is shocking to me!!

April 17, 2024, 01:11 AM

sigmonkey

When 144 rounds of .45 ACP is simply not enough to get an officer through the day...

https://www.police1.com/office...ob-clGBbLYpnqqHxwMq/

April 17, 2024, 01:19 AM

iron chef

quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
When 144 rounds of .45 ACP is simply not enough to get an officer through the day...

https://www.police1.com/office...ob-clGBbLYpnqqHxwMq/

Correction, Ofc. Gramins used to carry 45ACP in his primary sidearm, but after that SD incident, he converted to 9mm for its increased capacity.

April 17, 2024, 01:23 AM

markand

And just like that, his pronouns became, "was" and "were".

April 17, 2024, 01:38 AM

sigmonkey

quote:
Originally posted by iron chef:
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
When 144 rounds of .45 ACP is simply not enough to get an officer through the day...

https://www.police1.com/office...ob-clGBbLYpnqqHxwMq/
Correction, Ofc. Gramins used to carry 45ACP in his primary sidearm, but after that SD incident, he converted to 9mm for its increased capacity.

That's why I said, 144 of .45 ACP was not enough (that he moved to 145 of 9mm.)

April 17, 2024, 05:29 AM

Bulldog7972

He's back to 45. In a 1911. Kimber IIRC.

April 17, 2024, 06:23 AM

bdylan

My concern is for the meat this scholar was grilling. Hopefully it was put to good use and not left to smolder on a lonely grill.

April 17, 2024, 08:35 AM

Aglifter

Makes me think about the virtues of Tn defensive loads, if I can find any…

April 17, 2024, 09:06 AM

oddball

quote:
Originally posted by tleddy:
but absorbing that many rounds and still moving is shocking to me!!

April 17, 2024, 09:07 AM

CD228

quote:
Originally posted by Rawny:
He got mag dumped on with a 9mm, then three blasts with a shotgun and was still mouthing off? It took a fourth hit to hush him up. He must be Rasputin incarnate.

Time to rethink my home defense strategy. The 12ga is now the primary.

I'd ask how many of those rounds hit and where did they hit?

April 17, 2024, 09:18 AM

TMats

quote:
Originally posted by markand:
And just like that, his pronouns became, "was" and "were".

OK that’s funny

April 17, 2024, 09:40 AM

downeastnc1

After his "Really" the dumb shit didn't know to keep his damn mouth shut and at least play dead.

April 17, 2024, 09:46 AM

sigarms229

Took place in Philly. Color me shocked.

I live in PA and can tell you it's one of the worst cities I've ever visited and I've been to plenty.

April 17, 2024, 09:48 AM

sse

sad

April 17, 2024, 10:30 AM

nhtagmember

I wonder if those were just straight ball ammo target loads or if they were JHP rounds.

April 17, 2024, 10:32 AM

P220 Smudge

Instructive video.

The requisite caliber discussion just speaks to what I've seen and heard repeated from guys who survived shootings: shoot first if you can, hit the vitals if you can, and keep shooting until the guy can't shoot back. Pistols suck at killing people, and shotguns loaded with buckshot can also be iffy. Shotguns loaded with slugs do absolutely devastating stuff, and that's speaking from experience. If you want to kill someone, use a rifle, and bring friends with rifles. Sometimes the bad guy doesn't get the memo that he's supposed to lay down and play dead, and sometimes, you can do everything right, hit all the vitals, and still get killed.

This one added a new one for me, and that's if someone pulls a gun, they may not immediately try to shoot you, but it's still time to start shooting them. That security guard didn't hesitate, he yanked the quickest thing he could get into action and turned that mouthy fucker into swiss cheese.