Today's election day for our northern neighbors with big implications in Ottawa

What's the temperature of the water from our Canuk members, is Trudeau finally going to be ousted? Does O'Toole and the Conservatives have enough backing?

It’s not looking good but keep in mind that turn out is usually around 67% and the winner gets about 40% of that. It’s unfortunate that the majority can’t take the time to get rid of incompetent idiots.

going for the diversity vote, I assume.

I'm no longer convinced that elections reflect the people. The elected are those who control the execution of the voting system.

My brother lives in BC with dual citizenship and he says that Canada suffers from the same thing that the US does with the large cities being very liberal. He's hopeful but expecting disappointment.

Jim

Eastern Canada and the Lower Mainland in BC are addicted to govt money, so the conservatives have zero chances there. Quebec is a toss-up between the Libranos and the separatists. The populist party (PPC) will split the right-wing vote, thus benefitting the libs.

I predict another minority government (perhaps, sadly, for the liberals).

Trudeau is an idiot. Therefore, he will win. Idiots voting for an idiot.

My hunch is that Trudeau will be re-elected. The conservatives under O’Tool don’t seem to have enough support and most people aren’t aligned with their policies. I don’t think the NDP stands a chance.

Chatting with my family I said voting isn’t fit the ‘best’ person any more - it’s for the lesser of the evils and who will do the least damage.

Family consensus is that Trudeau will likely retain power. But not by much of a margin.

https://www.oann.com/canadas-t...-for-majority-fails/

Canada’s Trudeau vows cooperation with opponents after bid for majority fails

September 21, 2021

By Steve Scherer and David Ljunggren

MONTREAL (Reuters) – Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Tuesday acknowledged he will need to work with other parties after he fell short of winning a majority in parliamentary elections, leaving him once more dependent on opposition legislators to govern.

Trudeau, 49, was re-elected to a third term on Monday after calling a vote two years early, hoping for approval of his free-spending response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Since 2019 he had been working with a minority, forced to make deals with other parties to push through legislation.

But provisional results showed virtually no change from the 2019 election, delivering up another minority and begging the question of why Trudeau had called a vote that the official opposition Conservative Party portrayed as a cynical power grab.

Trudeau, in power since 2015, said he had a clear mandate to continue the path to recovery while conceding Canadians did not want to be thinking about politics or elections.

“You just want to know that your members of parliament of all stripes will have your back through this crisis and beyond,” he told supporters in Montreal. “You have given this Parliament and this government clear directions.”

The result suggests there will be little change in approach from the Liberals, who racked up record levels of debt and massive budget deficits fighting COVID-19.

Trudeau, who promised tens of billions of dollars in new investments during the campaign, will once again rely on the support of the smaller left-leaning New Democrats, who want even more social spending.

“We’re getting more of the same as what we had before. I don’t think markets are going to react either way,” said Martin Pelletier, senior portfolio manager at Trivest Wealth Counsel.

The Canadian dollar [CAD=] was trading slightly higher at 1.2766 to the greenback, or 78.33 U.S. cents, in Asian trading on Tuesday.

Provisional results showed the Liberals ahead in 155 constituencies, short of the 170 Trudeau needed to control the 338-seat House of Commons. The Conservatives were on 122 with the New Democrats on 26.

“The message Canadians are sending loud and clear is they like the direction the government is taking the country in but they’re not quite sure they want to give anybody carte blanche,” former close Trudeau advisor Gerry Butts told the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.

Around 800,000 mail-in ballots will be counted on Tuesday, which could affect the final tally in some seats.

The result is a blow to the right-leaning Conservatives, whose leader Erin O’Toole had tried to take a more centrist approach to attract progressive voters.

For the second election in a row the party won a larger share of the popular vote than the Liberals, who nevertheless triumphed with their lock on major urban centers.

O’Toole, who said he was sure Trudeau plans to call another election within two years, said he had called the Liberal leader and challenged him to put the unity of Canada first.

“I told him if he thinks he can threaten Canadians with another election in 18 months, the Conservative Party will be ready,” he told supporters in his home town of Oshawa, east of Toronto.

(Reporting by Steve Scherer and David Ljunggren; Additional reporting by Moira Warburton in Vancouver and Fergal Smith in Toronto; Writing by David Ljunggren; Editing by Edmund Klamann)

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Originally posted by konata88:
I'm no longer convinced that elections reflect the people. The elected are those who control the execution of the voting system.

Absolutely agree with this!!!


It's here in this state....

The Peoples' Party tripled their raw vote from 1.6% to 5% since 2019. They won no seats but likely siphoned off enough votes from the Conservatives in some ridings to prevent them winning the seat.

It helps that the MSM is bought and paid for by the Liberals. All conservative policies are better in every respect than those of the Liberals but constant nit picking, distortion and outright lying keeps the general population ignorant of the incompetence of Trudeau and fearful of any alternative.
Just like they do in the US for the Dems.

Hey TSE. I used to live in Calgary another lifetime ago. Had a house at 652 Fonda Court in the SE when I was working at the airport as an A&P

I’ll bet it has changed a great deal since 1985 and I wouldn’t recognize it.

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Originally posted by TSE:
It helps that the MSM is bought and paid for by the Liberals. All conservative policies are better in every respect than those of the Liberals but constant nit picking, distortion and outright lying keeps the general population ignorant of the incompetence of Trudeau and fearful of any alternative.
Just like they do in the US for the Dems.

If it doesn't get talked about, spoken of or, even acknowledged...does it count as news?

Minimize, downplay, deflect and ignore, then tenants of modern 'news media'