March 30, 2019, 11:07 AM
PHPaulCode question for electricians
Are the stab connectors for splicing wire rated for stranded wire?
Daughter complained of kitchen light flickering. Dual bulb flush mount fixture.
Pulled it down the stranded neutral from one of the sockets was pulled out (I assume it was loose in the connector before I removed the fixture) and there were two sets of connectors: One set tying the two socket leads to a pigtail, another tying the pigtail to the Romex.
Also, the stranded ground on the fixture was just wrapped around the solid ground on the Romex. No wirenut or tape or anything at all.
Wound up shitcanning the fixture and putting a new one in.
March 30, 2019, 11:29 AM
Skins2881Wouldn't know, I refuse to used them. Usually if they are used on stranded wiring then the wires are tinned.
The ground wire should have a wire nut installed.
March 30, 2019, 11:52 AM
Chris42While it works, I do not believe stranded is intended for residential permanent wiring applications. I would not use it in the push in type connections I think you are describing. Some fixtures have a choice, push in or around a screw. I have always preferred the screw for exactly this reason - stab in type gives a poor connection.
March 30, 2019, 12:02 PM
zoom6zoomThe guy who invented stab in connectors should be... stabbed.
March 30, 2019, 12:07 PM
striker1Stab connectors should be done away with. Same for the back-stabs on receptacles.
March 30, 2019, 01:34 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by striker1:
Stab connectors should be done away with. Same for the back-stabs on receptacles.
Hey now, careful what you say, those things pay my mortgage. If we eliminated those we'd have way fewer electrical failures and I might have to seek a second job.
March 30, 2019, 04:20 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by Chris42:
While it works, I do not believe stranded is intended for residential permanent wiring applications. I would not use it in the push in type connections I think you are describing. Some fixtures have a choice, push in or around a screw. I have always preferred the screw for exactly this reason - stab in type gives a poor connection.
On yachts, they only use stranded wire. Usually tinned unless it's a budget builder. But, the Euro yachts all use those poke and stab terminal blocks for all of the wiring, it holds the stranded wire without issue, I hate the poke and stab crap.
March 30, 2019, 08:48 PM
Excam_Manquote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
Are the stab connectors for splicing wire rated for stranded wire?
No, and I wouldn't use them on solid wire either.
March 30, 2019, 10:14 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
Are the stab connectors for splicing wire rated for stranded wire?
No, and I wouldn't use them on solid wire either.
Actually for some odd reason they are.
March 31, 2019, 07:21 AM
PHPaulI'll be damned. Down to #18 too.
Not in my house, Bubba!