I say keep it. Have had mine about a year, haven't used it yet but I will renew when the time comes. You never know when you will need it.

quote:

Originally posted by PHPaul:
I voted renew on the premise that it's better to have and not need, than to need and not have.

Things change. Whether for better or worse is a crap shoot.

Agree better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it especially since the renewal fee is only a measly 30 bucks. One regret I have is allowing my CDL to expire because I wasn't using it at the time.

Over the years, discounts at places like Brownells have been far greater than the $30 fee. (Does that cover 3 years or 5 years - don't remember)

$30 for 3 years.

Sadly, the days of C&R holders being afforded a FFL discount are basically gone.

I just renewed mine for the 7th? time.
Yeah, not like the salad days of imports... but fun when you realize you can transfer anything over 50yrs old!

I was on the Century 3fer quick dial.
Ladies used to call me to buy Turkish Mausers and Mosins.

One 3fer deal
m38
91/59
m44

$29 bucks a piece!

What a great time to be alive!!!!

Huzzah!

All the best
Billy

FYI - I figured I'd go ahead and toss a check and application at ATF for a whole new 03 FFL, which I did a few days after this thread. I just received it today. So ~3 weeks turnaround, including mailing time both ways.

Pretty good, for government bureaucracy.

(Though it might have helped that I had one previously, up until ~10 months ago. A brand new applicant might take longer.)

ATF charged my credit card today. Woohoo!

Just got my renewed 03 FFL in the mail yesterday.

what do you need to get an 03?

while not wanting to get engaged in a lot of transactions, I'm wondering if it might be a useful thing to have

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
what do you need to get an 03?

while not wanting to get engaged in a lot of transactions, I'm wondering if it might be a useful thing to have

1. Fill out an application: https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download (Certain parts of the application, like the photo and fingerprints, are specifically noted as not applying to an 03 FFL.)
2. Mail the application and a $30 check (or info for your credit card on the application) to the ATF.
3. Mail a copy of the application to the Police Chief/Sheriff over your jurisdiction (as a heads-up, not as a request for permission)
4. Wait a few weeks for ATF to complete a background check on their end, which involves no additional effort on your part.
5. Collect FFL and info packet when it arrives in the mail.
6. Brush up on the laws and requirements involved with having an 03 FFL.
7. Start a Bound Book with which to log transactions. (Doesn't have to be anything fancy; there are free example pages you can download online and stick in a binder.)

Fin.

Cool. I think I might just get one.

Thanks

quote:

Originally posted by RogueJSK:

Start a Bound Book with which to log transactions. (Doesn't have to be anything fancy; there are free example pages you can download online and stick in a binder.)

When you say "binder" I think of a three-ring loose leaf notebook type binder.

Does this meet the requirement for a "bound book?"

If it were $100 or more, I'd say no, but at only $30, it sounds like "better to have it and not need it."

quote:

Originally posted by V-Tail:
When you say "binder" I think of a three-ring loose leaf notebook type binder.

Does this meet the requirement for a "bound book?"

Yep. The ATF allows either a permanently bound book or "an orderly arrangement of loose-leaf pages".

The ATF Firearms Compliance Inspections process does not appear to apply to 03 licensees as they are collectors and not businesses. Correct?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/compliance-inspections

ATF can request a compliance inspection of your bound book and any guns involved in the book, no more than once per year. The collector can choose to do it at either their home or at the local ATF office. Sometimes they just want to look at the book itself. Sometimes they want to cross check the serials within with the actual physical guns themselves.

But these random inspections are very rare for C&R holders. Most collectors never get one. I never had one in my prior decade plus of having a C&R license.

if you don't plan on using it, you could let it expire. This gives you the opportunity to close out your existing book which you do not need to turn over.

You can then start a fresh blank book if you decide to get licensed again in the future.

do yourself, and any potential dealer you have to deal with via the web,


make a good quality .pdf of your C&R (and any 01's or 07's reading this do the same)

nothing is more frustrating than a C&R or other dealer buying a firearm and sending me a photo of the license,

mind you some can take good photo's, but most lately look like a bad scan or picture of a polaroid taken in a dark room at night, after the balled up piece of paper was used to print the license,,,,


and send as an attachment,, soem email programs suck when sending the pics in the body of an email

Skip one meal out, and put the money into the renewal.