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Coin Sniper |
This was inevitable, in fact I actually predicted this and watched it play out. The back story is that the City Detroit has had a problem with people riding ATV's on city streets. It's illegal, they are off road vehicles and not road legal in Michigan. Usually they run when they spot police making it even more dangerous. In August of 2017 a Michigan State Police unit was in Detroit and one of these ATV's sped by them. The Troopers gave chase and it lasted a while. Eventually one of the Troopers deployed a Taser, struck the rider, who lost control and hit a pick up truck. The rider didn't survive, he was 15 years old. https://www.clickondetroit.com...gainst-state-trooper The Trooper was suspended, fired, and charged. Last week he was sentenced after being convicted. https://www.clickondetroit.com...n-s-deadly-atv-crash The conviction didn't satisfy people apparently and in a form of protest they swarmed the streets on ATV's for several days (I predicted this, also commented that someone was going to die before it was over) https://www.clickondetroit.com...n-detroits-east-side The police let it happen at the time, but clearly gathered a lot of evidence because... https://www.clickondetroit.com...-on-city-s-east-side But even that didn't stop it because, as I predicted, a guy lost control and killed himself. Does anyone wonder why ATV's are illegal to ride on the streets? Of course instead of public menace killed while tearing up the streets on an offroad ATV he's being remembered the wonderful, loving, caring, father, businessman, icon of the community taken too soon in a tragic accident WHICH wouldn't have happened if he was setting a good example like a great father and pillar of the community.... https://www.clickondetroit.com...and-river-in-detroit And there you have.... the rest of the story. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | ||
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It isn’t the ATVs that are the problem here. ATVs are street legal in parts of Europe and sometimes in rural parts of America. I loved seeing plated Raptors on the streets of Copenhagen. I would legalize them everywhere if it were up to me. How is a Honda Grom more road worthy than a Raptor 700R? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Coin Sniper |
A piece of equipment is rarely the problem, people and how they choose to use said equipment are always the problem Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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People riding ATV’s rarely experience difficulty. Lawless savages are another matter. You should be allowed to shoot big nylon nets at them when they try to run. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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What you didn't let us know: was this idiot doing something he loved? | |||
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Did the ATVs in Europe have tires more suited for pavement? The typical ATV tire that I'm familiar with isn't really optimal for street traction. Having said that, driving one on pavement at anything close to an appropriate speed isn't going to be a problem. | |||
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Go ahead punk, make my day |
Shit, I'm all for more organ donors, there are so many people on the waitlists as it is. | |||
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I like the way you think.....let them thin themselves out. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Or a Barrett 50.
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We have a big problem with the ATV'S on the roads in central Florida. They are surrounding people in their cars, taunting them and causing all kind of problems. A few weeks ago they were on the Florida Turnpike and caused an accident. They seem to try to think they own the road, cause accidents and take off. Of course they have no insurance so even if the catch some one who causes an accident the person in the car has no one to go after to pay for the damage the ATV rider caused. The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State NRA Life Member | |||
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Apparently did not read the warning label. Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. “If in winning a race, you lose the respect of your fellow competitors, then you have won nothing” - Paul Elvstrom "The Great Dane" 1928 - 2016 | |||
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I would be interested in trying one of the newer quads on the street and how they handle turning with the solid rear axle. I remember making tight turns on the street riding the old Honda 3 wheelers got sketchy at times. But doable. And the mechanical locker on my old Toyota truck when it failed to unlock in a turn would cause quite the chatter from the rear end. ___________________________________Sigforum - port in the fake news storm.____________Be kind to the Homeless. A lot of us are one bad decision away from there. | |||
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We have the same issue in Cleveland. Mayor won't let the police do anything because his son is constantly doing this. The mayor also wants to build a park for these idiots. Who will drive there illegally on the streets and half are probably stolen. Not minority enough! | |||
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Maybe some cars, but most cars with a mediocre driver would smoke that toy with a competent driver on the street. They're designed for off road. Trying to make one of those handle on the street would be like trying to make a Tacoma handle like a Porsche. Could be done (maybe) but get your checkbook out. | |||
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Go ahead punk, make my day |
Typically the limfac with ATV and Cycle riders. Egos writing checks their bodies can't cash.
Sure, but handling usually isn't an issue in the city. This is very similar to those Light Sport Airplanes, where people with minimal skill get behind something that can kill them in a heartbeat. Doesn't really bother me if the mort themselves | |||
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I believe you're missing the point. We have this same problem in Central Florida. The issues go like this... 1 - Under aged riders without DL's. 2 - Riders obeying no rules/laws of the road. (Red light? Not for me.) 3 - Riders harassing other drivers (had it happen to me). 4 - ATV's and dirt bikes running off road tires (great on wet asphalt). 5 - ATV's and dirt bikes running 'no' lights racing around at night. These assholes are a menace and steps need to be taken to remove them from the streets permanently. And if a few get smashed along the way, oh well, good riddance. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Not when that asshole organ donor is plowing into my truck to facilitate his donation. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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In many areas of the Yoop, ATVs are legal to use the shoulders of the roads. I was recently in Big Bay and ATV and SxSs outnumbered other vehicles. Problem: They snuff out quite a few people up here every year. Lots seriously injured. Often times it is happening to kids. Speed, alcohol, no helmets, lack of skill and general stupidity are the causes. Fun fact: a 2019 Yamaha Kodiak 450 weighs 637 pounds. Something to consider as it is rolling over on top of you. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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It’s not like these people are stealing ATVs & illegally riding them on the street are responsible tax paying citizens. They are criminal thugs. There should be an open season on them. | |||
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