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FBi Agent Carjacked in Washington DC

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November 30, 2023, 02:05 PM
sig2392
FBi Agent Carjacked in Washington DC
FBI offers reward, releases pictures

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fb...ked-in-dc-police-say

Why did he let this happen?
November 30, 2023, 02:08 PM
Andyb
I'll take didn't want to be crucified through the news media by shooting



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November 30, 2023, 02:17 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by sig2392:
Why did he let this happen?


Several things to keep in mind.

1) Not all cops are gun guys. Most aren't. This goes double for federal agents, many of which are basically white collar office workers with LE powers: accountants, computer scientists, psychologists, lawyers, etc. Some don't carry all the time.

2) This ain't a movie, you're not John Rambo or Chuck Norris, and you can't outdraw/outshoot a significant tactical disadvantage. If someone seriously gets the drop on you, and already has you at gunpoint, especially multiple armed bad guys at once, there's often not much you can do but give them what they want to survive to another day. Are you willing to die over just a car?

3) Not all FBI employees are sworn and armed "federal agents" (GS1811 Federal Investigators). Most aren't. The news report repeatedly refers to them as an "FBI employee" and only once as an "FBI agent". The media often gets things wrong, especially with breaking news, and they like many members of the public likely assume all FBI employees are gun-toting "agents". But the FBI employee in question could have easily been one of the many non-armed, non-agent FBI employees, like analysts, tech specialists, or other support staff, who was driving a FBI-owned vehicle. Hell, like any office, the FBI needs mailroom clerks, secretaries, IT guys, HR folks, etc. All of which are "FBI employees" despite just being run of the mill office worker bees.
November 30, 2023, 02:25 PM
parabellum
"...our city-under-siege coverage..."

Assholes. You're in a position to do something about it and all you do is sensationalize this obscenity in an effort to profit from it. You and your ilk need to be hung right along with the thugs.
November 30, 2023, 02:38 PM
downtownv
Well, the agent got to experience the world the FBI helped build.


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November 30, 2023, 02:58 PM
ZSMICHAEL
A similar carjacking happened in Chicago a few years back. The FBI agent left the car open just to run inside. The trunk was filled with guns of course. The agent could not catch the car. They finally found the car because it was parked illegally and had a ticket for improper parking.
Mind you this was in a sketchy area of town. Top men they are!
November 30, 2023, 03:03 PM
jljones
About a year ago, this happened to an agent in Louisville.




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November 30, 2023, 03:05 PM
Sig2340
Don't go to DC at night.

Everyone I know understands this.





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November 30, 2023, 03:14 PM
sig 226
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
About a year ago, this happened to an agent in Louisville.


We recently had a change in GOs where we can no longer keep any dept equipment in POVs any longer. Dept doesn't want equipment loose on the street with an increase in vehicle tampering/car jackings, but it's a huge PITA for the troops on the road.


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November 30, 2023, 03:20 PM
trapper189
Can you blame them? Who doesn’t want a blacked out Suburban?
November 30, 2023, 05:08 PM
Fredward
Personally, and having driven government vehicles while armed, I would NOT risk getting shot over a government vehicle, if that's what it was. Of course, I don't think anyone has ever jacked a one ton prison van with a caged passenger area, but it could happen, I suppose.
November 30, 2023, 05:47 PM
darthfuster
Not everyone is Raylan Givens



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November 30, 2023, 05:59 PM
.38supersig
They released pictures of the suspected thieves...

Isn't that supposed to be racist or something? Roll Eyes



November 30, 2023, 06:41 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:

Don't go to DC at night.

Everyone I know understands this.
The linked article states that it happened around 3:45pm.



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November 30, 2023, 06:43 PM
nhtagmember
I’m having a hard time feeling sorry for someone in a criminal organization getting hit by a criminal

Somehow it almost seems like karma working its way through the list
November 30, 2023, 07:54 PM
architect
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
They released pictures of the suspected thieves...

Isn't that supposed to be racist or something? Roll Eyes
Only if they're not white!
November 30, 2023, 09:41 PM
Rightwire
Clearly, not handled like this....






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December 01, 2023, 12:11 AM
CPD SIG
quote:
Originally posted by sig2392:


Why did he let this happen?




You know you have to be 100%, 100% of the time.
That, in itself is impossible.

A little tired this morning on the way out to your car?
Thinking about important stuff on the way to your car after work?
Arm load of stuff on the way to your car?

Let's throw 2 (or 3, 4, 5 ) suspects at you from different angles.

How about a car rolling up on you and gun barrels are out of the car before the 4 bad guys are. Maybe one has an AR, another a Drako (Mini AK), feel like tossing in a full auto Glock with an extended magazine?

Got a jacket buttoned up with that pistol under your shirt/sweater?
Feel like getting some trigger time in with that snubby pocket pistol?


I'm not making excuses for the guy, I'm just tossing out some "Real World" hypothetical questions for you, and anyone else that carries a gun all the time. Things to start thinking about BEFORE you walk out the door in the morning. Things that happen in real life, and in real time.


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December 01, 2023, 05:46 AM
Mars_Attacks
When every last street urchin is sporting a full auto glock, there's nothing the agent can do.

Every time I read a police report of bangers getting arrested with one, there is NEVER a charge for it and out on cashless bail they go.

Let a white dude have a business card with a drawing on it, he goes to jail for life and all his assets are seized with no so much as a trial.


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December 01, 2023, 04:47 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Taciturn Effrem Zimbalist Jr. would not have let that happen.