Been looking at compact SUV's. Rav4 reliablity is now average. CRV has oil dilution problems. Did not care for the Mazda or Subaru. Don't think I can ever go back to GM or Ford.
I know some like the Sante Fe. Depreciation is pretty bad.

Well I gave my Santa Fe (2018) to my son. It’s been a great vehicle. I rented a 2018 Tucson last year for 2 weeks and put 1800 miles on it. I was impressed with it though it was smaller than the Santa Fe.
I’d buy either one if needed again.

I had a 2013 and it was a great vehicle. Bought it brand new and put about 70k miles on it before selling it. It was reliable, many long road trips were made in that vehicle. It was a trim level up from the base model. Would I buy another one? Yes. They’re great value for the dollar. They don’t have the same reputation as the Japanese counterparts and maybe their long term reliability isn’t as proven but you will get more features with the Korean vehicles than the Japanese ones at the same price point. We have also had a Kia Sportage which is the Kia version of the Tucson and that was nice too. Road noise was higher than the Tucson, though. The Sportage did have some warranty work done: catalytic converters were replaced and tire pressure sensors reprogrammed. Both were done under warranty with zero cost to me.

Two things come to mind. I would take a look at the Honda Passport. It really is not a very big rig. I call it a smaller SUV but the acronym SUV in my mind originated with the Chevy Tahoe. Lexus would be another choice.

Had a 2013 model. Overall fit and finish of Hyundais are very good. The thing was gutless though. If I were in the market today, i'd look at the Santa Fe. It has an available 275hp v6. Hyundai vehicles are good to go. We have had 4 over the last 8 years. Currently hav 2 Genesis coypes with100k miles each. Problem free with the exception of i blew the turbo out on mine at 98k. They replaced it on their 100k warranty no question

maybe look for a nice used one

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I know some like the Sante Fe. Depreciation is pretty bad.

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If I were in the market today, i'd look at the Santa Fe. It has an available 275hp v6.

I don't think they come with a V6. Have been thinking about a new SUV. At the moment i'm narrowed down to the Rav4 and the passport.
Took them both for a drive and there are some things I like and don't like about each. Overall I prefer the passport with the V6 and the automatic transmission. Don't like that it doesn't come with a bird's eye view camera. Something that size I think I need the camera.

I've loved both Tucsons I've rented. Unfortunately it was in Ireland so they were both 6-speed turbo diesels - something we will NEVER be allowed to have here.

I liked the quality, fit and finish, though, so I just bought something else from the Hyundai line last month.

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maybe look for a nice used one

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I know some like the Sante Fe. Depreciation is pretty bad.

Their certified pre-owned program seems to be pretty nice:

https://owners.hyundaiusa.com/...-owned-vehicles.html

I have a 2007 with the 2.0 four cylinder engine. It's terribly underpowered, but has been completely reliable and actually pretty capable. The only issue it's ever given me was having to replace a window motor on the passenger side front.

Passport has a timing belt and an interference engine. If I don't drive much, I still have a thousand dollar repair at 7 years. Highlander seems great except for the whistle/wind noise from driver pillar at 50 mph and above.
I didn't mind the RAv4 so much. But owners complain it is overly noisy and it is difficult to pay Toyota prices for average reliability. Rav4 and CRV prices are the same and all are bundled with AWD and cold weather packages which are unnecessary. Liked CRV better.
This is the last year before Tucson's redesign. Drove the 2.4 SEL version.
Hated Subaru's engine shutting off at stop. Mazda ride was firm and bouncy. Headlights were great. Extensive plastic under clad to trap road salt.
That is what leads me to consider Hyundai.

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Passport has a timing belt and an interference engine. If I don't drive much, I still have a thousand dollar repair at 7 years. Highlander seems great except for the whistle/wind noise from driver pillar at 50 mph and above.
I didn't mind the RAv4 so much. But owners complain it is overly noisy and it is difficult to pay Toyota prices for average reliability. Rav4 and CRV prices are the same and all are bundled with AWD and cold weather packages which are unnecessary. Liked CRV better.
This is the last year before Tucson's redesign. Drove the 2.4 SEL version.
Hated Subaru's engine shutting off at stop. Mazda ride was firm and bouncy. Headlights were great. Extensive plastic under clad to trap road salt.
That is what leads me to consider Hyundai.

Where are you coming up with “average reliability” for the RAV4?

My wife has a 2011 that she bought new.
The engine took a crap at 6K mile, a new engine was put in and she has 120K on it now.
Never had any issues, the brakes were done @ 100K and regular oil changes and tires.
I expect it will last longer than her.

Consumer Reports polling shows average reliability

I had an 2010 Tucson (purchased new) and kept it for 7 years. Road trips, commuting, etc. Yeah, it lacked pep, but it was anvil reliable and I had zero issues.

I would recommend looking at a trim line with the 2.4L Engine or going with a Kia Sportage.

They no longer make the Santa Fe with the V6. However, they have a new base line 2.5L for the 2021 Kia Sorento (Kia variant of the Santa Fe) and the 2021 Santa Fe will have this new 2.5L engine was well. The 2021 Kia Sorento is out now. The 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe will be released sometime in the first quarter of 2021. Sometime later in 2021 they are supposed to release hybrids for both the Sorento and Santa Fe.

The top of the line trims for the Hyundai Tuscon and the Kia Sportage have a 2.0L turbocharged engine.

I think all the base trim line Hyundai's are underpowered. But they have to do that to meet C.A.F.E. standards.

I'm personally hoping to hold out until they release the 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe. I would love to get one of the hybrids but sadly I think it will be out of my price range. So I will probably get a 2.5L.

Edit: I was just looking over Kia's Web site and realized that the Sorento Hybrids have in fact been released. But it appears they are front wheel drive only. I don' know if they have plans for releasing an all wheel driver version.

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My in-laws have a Tucson with the 1.6l turbo and DCT transmission. Drove it a couple times. It was nice enough. Punchy power. Though I never drove it without the in-laws present, so I never went WOT. I believe it's been pretty reliable except for one of the clutches failing on them. I think it was replaced under warranty.

The newer Tucson's no longer offer a turbo option from what I could see.

The new KIA Sorento looks promising.

Daughters have the Sorento, one had the Hyundai Santa Fe first. the Hyundai was good, no problems encountered and ran fine for the 3 years of the lease. They had their first child and wanted more room so they went to the Sorento at the end of the Hyundai lease. I'd suggest it over the smaller CUV/SUV models out there, and with the Kia you'll get a lot more features than you will on the Japanese counterparts.

Other daughter drives a Kia Telluride, its a heck of a vehicle, her husband took the Sorento to drive to work.

We had a 2011 Kia Sportage, same basic car. Loved it right up until my wife totaled it in 2015.