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The big difference between this and other boycotts is that this isn't just about a philosophical position. The 6% drop over a year shows it has staying power...because it is a policy that continues to concern people. They don't want to run into the creep in the changing room or restroom, go figure!




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This was terrible timing on Target's part with Amazon gaining so much momentum. If this was five years ago Target would recover, but Amazon and the like are at the brink of really hurting the local retailers. I can get my stuff in two days without worrying about who's in the bathroom.



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Shit like this combined with the credit card shit show a few years ago makes it seem like they're asking for people not to shop there.


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I've rarely darkened their doors. Neither the MUCH better half, now myself have done so since this came to light.


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This was terrible timing on Target's part with Amazon gaining so much momentum. If this was five years ago Target would recover, but Amazon and the like are at the brink of really hurting the local retailers. I can get my stuff in two days without worrying about who's in the bathroom.

People who shop on Amazon in order to avoid interacting with trannies should be required to let trannies into their homes to use the bathroom.




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This was terrible timing on Target's part with Amazon gaining so much momentum. If this was five years ago Target would recover, but Amazon and the like are at the brink of really hurting the local retailers. I can get my stuff in two days without worrying about who's in the bathroom.


yes, terrible timing indeed. Recent article about Amazon and Walmart are just getting into a pricewar that is going to crush a lot of retailers. Good news is goods will be CHEAP!



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I guess Target should have figured out who their target customers were in the first place.


BULLSEYE!!


I know both are using a little humor here, but they really do know who their core shoppers are. If they only experienced a 6% drop, that means that means 94% of sales comes from people who were unaffected by the shitty decision. I am sure it was calculated and many in the management of Target were hoping that like Chick-fil-A, whatever revenue was lost, the core customers would make up, as sort of a reward for standing up to the "MAN". What they forgot to consider was how little money lefties actually have to spend. Remember, not everything sold at Target can be bought with an EBT card!


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as a mostly single guy with no children who doesn't use the bathroom at target, I get to not give a damn about what they do with their bathrooms.
 
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I do find it a little funny. Target encouraged and welcomed Trans/cross dressers and sales drop 6%. Chick-fil-a says they personally believe marriage is between a man and a woman (not the company), the media tried to make them out to be evil, and they have a 14% increase in sales. And for those not familiar with business, a 14% increase is massive for an established business. Even a 6% loss is a huge deal, many people were probably fired.
 
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I do find it a little funny. Target encouraged and welcomed Trans/cross dressers and sales drop 6%. Chick-fil-a says they personally believe marriage is between a man and a woman (not the company), the media tried to make them out to be evil, and they have a 14% increase in sales. And for those not familiar with business, a 14% increase is massive for an established business. Even a 6% loss is a huge deal, many people were probably fired.

For leftist CEOs, it's more about virtue signalling than it is profits.




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Target CEO Brian Cornell “expressed frustration” to his deputies once the transgender policy was announced, but also said it would be too risky to publicly withdraw the policy, which has helped alienate customers and slashed the company’s stock value from roughly $50 billion to roughly $30 billion , according to the Wall Street Journal.

The company’s revenues, profits, and stock value dropped quickly after the announcement, which said that store managers would eliminate single-sex bathrooms and changing rooms to help provide a welcoming atmosphere for transgender customers who comprise far less than 1 percent of the population. The company sank faster once a major boycott of Target was launched by the American Family Association, whose petition garnered over a million signatures in a matter of weeks.

According to the Journal, Target essentially made the bold announcement that anyone who disagrees with its policy is a bigot.

The company has seen such a troubled economic outlook that it dropped several high profile, but costly, projects upon which it had pinned its hopes for future growth. The announcement of the shuttering of the two major expansion projects came as a sudden and unexpected move to analysts.
 
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I wonder if future business courses in college will include guidance to effect of, “It’s better to ignore a tiny goofball minority of your customers than it is to actively alienate the majority”—hmmm? Roll Eyes




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^^^ Haha! I never shop there anyway but I will make sure I never do in the future. I hope other companies take note do these things.


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I guess Target should have figured out who their target customers were in the first place.


BULLSEYE!!


I know both are using a little humor here, but they really do know who their core shoppers are. If they only experienced a 6% drop, that means that means 94% of sales comes from people who were unaffected by the shitty decision. I am sure it was calculated and many in the management of Target were hoping that like Chick-fil-A, whatever revenue was lost, the core customers would make up, as sort of a reward for standing up to the "MAN". What they forgot to consider was how little money lefties actually have to spend. Remember, not everything sold at Target can be bought with an EBT card!


Here is where your math is wrong:

The article says sales fell 6% in the three quarters compared with same period last year. That's dollars, not number of shoppers. It means even assuming people who don't give a shit about the policy upped their buying, Target still lost 6% compared to last year.

Secondly, the 2016 outlook was 3% growth. Link.

If Sales decreased by 6% at Target, that means they lost 9% compared with the industry average. You may be different that the rest of us but are you saying you wouldn't mind making 6% less than what you did last year? Especially, if you know you should be making 3% more?



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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I guess Target should have figured out who their target customers were in the first place.


BULLSEYE!!


I know both are using a little humor here, but they really do know who their core shoppers are. If they only experienced a 6% drop, that means that means 94% of sales comes from people who were unaffected by the shitty decision. I am sure it was calculated and many in the management of Target were hoping that like Chick-fil-A, whatever revenue was lost, the core customers would make up, as sort of a reward for standing up to the "MAN". What they forgot to consider was how little money lefties actually have to spend. Remember, not everything sold at Target can be bought with an EBT card!
IMO, if the rules about EBT cards were what they should be--and were enforced--at least half what is sold at Target would be ineligible.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I guess Target should have figured out who their target customers were in the first place.


BULLSEYE!!


I know both are using a little humor here, but they really do know who their core shoppers are. If they only experienced a 6% drop, that means that means 94% of sales comes from people who were unaffected by the shitty decision. I am sure it was calculated and many in the management of Target were hoping that like Chick-fil-A, whatever revenue was lost, the core customers would make up, as sort of a reward for standing up to the "MAN". What they forgot to consider was how little money lefties actually have to spend. Remember, not everything sold at Target can be bought with an EBT card!


Here is where your math is wrong:

The article says sales fell 6% in the three quarters compared with same period last year. That's dollars, not number of shoppers. It means even assuming people who don't give a shit about the policy upped their buying, Target still lost 6% compared to last year.

Secondly, the 2016 outlook was 3% growth. Link.

If Sales decreased by 6% at Target, that means they lost 9% compared with the industry average. You may be different that the rest of us but are you saying you wouldn't mind making 6% less than what you did last year? Especially, if you know you should be making 3% more?


No, I would be pissed at making less, but I wouldn't actively sabotage my own bank account either. My point is that they took a calculated risk by shitting in Conservatives cornflakes in hopes that their die hard "do gooders" would make up the difference in sales, which we can see didn't happen. I think they did this purposely and truly believed they would be lifted up by those with the least amount of money to spend!


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I have not shopped Target in many years since I found out they support Gay and Lesbian causes. When they first opened in my area I used them for my Pharmacy services but quit because, it didn't matter if you walked in with a script or phoned it in from the Drs. Office or called in a refill two days prior to needing it it was always you waited 15 to 30 or more minutes and, the staff was always seen walking around behind the counter eating or drinking or just chatting with others which is not very professional looking for people who are paid the money they are and look this un-professional.


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Target CEO Brian Cornell “expressed According to the Journal, Target essentially made the bold announcement that anyone who disagrees with its policy is a bigot.


And anyone who calls their customers names really needs to go back and take a "Customer Relations 101" course. Not a way to convince people that your way is right. But the left always goes straight to the "racist/bigot/homophobe/you're stupid" card if people disagree with them.


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Let them "make a stand".

I will too. I'll stand in someone else's store.

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I have not shopped Target in many years since I found out they support Gay and Lesbian causes. When they first opened in my area I used them for my Pharmacy services but quit because, it didn't matter if you walked in with a script or phoned it in from the Drs. Office or called in a refill two days prior to needing it it was always you waited 15 to 30 or more minutes and, the staff was always seen walking around behind the counter eating or drinking or just chatting with others which is not very professional looking for people who are paid the money they are and look this un-professional.


Target sold their entire pharmacy operation last year to CVS. We scratched our heads on that one since pharmacy is a big time profit center, and the new CEO decided to up and sell the entire operation to CVS. All Target pharmacies are now staffed by CVS employees, wear CVS uniforms, and a huge CVS sign on the building.


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