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It has been record-breaking heat hereabouts. It was 104 yesterday.

My heart goes out to this young man's family. Stay hydrated, folks.



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Posts: 27245 | Location: SW of Hovey, Texas | Registered: January 30, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Truly a sad loss.

I will keep my Health/Safety comments to myself for now.




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Posts: 9912 | Location: Jawjah | Registered: December 30, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Very sad story. I could not imagine how the family is feeling and nor would I want to. A loss like this would kill me.
 
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Unfortunate and heartbreaking video but, preventable.

Backpacking in 100+ heat, that's on the parents who supervised the trip. Movement in that kind of heat is a no-go, you seek shelter during the day and if you need to make milage, you do it at night.
 
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So sad.

Today my 14 year olds are playing all day baseball tourny. Hot and muggy here...I filled the Yeti with Gatorade and Water.

An hour in I check the cooler, son#1 had drank a full gatorade already, son#2 said, "I'm not thirsty". He knows better....

Made him down a full water bottle in front of me, bootcamp style. (hold it over your head upside down when it is gone) and threatened to do it with again with a larger gatorade bottle if there was not a dent put into it within the next 45 minutes.

As parents/teachers/coaches/scout leaders/etc, we are responsible for teaching our kids about hydration. Both during the event, and the hours leading up to it.

Without knowing more about the story that the OP posted, I cannot judge anyone. But I can tell you for damn sure that if I am leading a group of kids anywhere and it is HOT outside, not a damn one of them will go down with heat-stroke.

I am very angry about what happened to that young man, it was likely preventable.


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That is just awful judgement by the adults on scene, absolutely preventable.

Outside of war, I cannot see why that is necessary in 104 degree weather.


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I agree that this was probably preventable. Buffalo Trails is located at the northern end of the Chihuahuan Desert. June is typically our hottest month. I'm surprised that scout leaders okayed the idea to make a backpack trip there at this time of year. I'd guess that Scout Ranch policy will be changed as a result of this.
 
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Terrible. And preventable.

Every Scout camp- or campout I've ever been to, every adult is always saying drink some water. The. Drink some more. Hydrate or die. Also teach your kids to look at the color of their pee. Artichoke/asparagus dinner excepted, your pee should be clear. When it's yellowish or worse you need to get a lot more water in you
 
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I'll withhold judgment on the scout leaders until details emerge. Hiking may have been his only option. We're they actually hiking at that time? Was it a really slow or injured boy who was late getting into camp at 4 pm? In all my adult leader days and 50 milers, I've planned to have the strenuous hiking down before noon.

Sad day for sure.


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One of our graduated seniors passed away at Kent State from the heat this week.
http://wktn.com/local-news/309799


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I'll withhold judgment on the scout leaders until details emerge. Hiking may have been his only option. We're they actually hiking at that time? Was it a really slow or injured boy who was late getting into camp at 4 pm? In all my adult leader days and 50 milers, I've planned to have the strenuous hiking down before noon.

Sad day for sure.


I'm with you on withholding judgement until further details emerge. Sad day indeed. I ALWAYS had to push the hydration on my Scouts. As they got a little older some learned to do it themselves.




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We watched our scouts like hawks when we were in the heat. Each kid had to carry a water bottle or canteen with water in it, and we made sure they drank.

I am sorry for the boy's death.




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Hydration is important but, so is leadership. Was it smart to go out there, 100+ degrees, carrying a load for X-number of miles? Did the Scoutmaster simply think as long as everyone is drinking, they'll be fine? Perhaps this kid had a unknown medical condition, either way...I'm looking at the parental supervision of this troop and their Scoutmasters.
 
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Hydration is important but, so is leadership. Was it smart to go out there, 100+ degrees, carrying a load for X-number of miles? Did the Scoutmaster simply think as long as everyone is drinking, they'll be fine? Perhaps this kid had a unknown medical condition, either way...I'm looking at the parental supervision of this troop and their Scoutmasters.


Or the boy or boys ventured off on their own. I remember ignoring much of the advice my scoutmaster offered.


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Dehydration is not the only thing that can cause heat stroke. It’s important, but so is knowledge and not thinking, “They’re drinking plenty of water, so everyone’s okay.”




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