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Fourth line skater |
Good point. _________________________ OH, Bonnie McMurray! | |||
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I could see this as an acceptable work around. | |||
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It costs money to do what the government is making you do so you are able to enjoy a right. What other rights are you required to pay the government for permission to do? Keep in mind poll tax was made illegal in 1962 after passage of the 24th amendment. | |||
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delicately calloused |
I agree with Flash-LB too. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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We have CC here and I have no problem with five years for only $10 with 2-3 day turnaround. Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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That fee is clearly intended to only offset (and probably partially at that) the admin. costs of the CCW regime. Other states, however, set fee amounts that are clearly intended to discourage all but the most determined and well-off from exercising their rights. That needs to be struck down. | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
IMO, SCOTUS has not been doing the best job of following precedent - gay marriage should have been treated the same as first cousin marriages, but I think there are existing tests about getting approval/paying fees/restrictions to hold rallies in public spaces, etc - the main difference is that concealed carry does not impinge the rights of others, in the way that amplified speech in a public area does. | |||
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Now that dominoes are falling after recent court cases, previously ccw hostile CA counties are falling in line. I know some folks in liberal Bay Area and in SF proper they are requiring a psyche evaluation and it’s hundreds of dollars in fees ..WTF in CA CCW is county sheriff approved and issued. Could you imagine a psyche eval to vote ?! And it’s taking 6 months to a year to get the license. In FL it’s a state issued CCW ( we’re working on constitutional carry) and I paid about $90 and it’s good for 7 years. Fee Included getting livescan printed at the DMV/tax office. Receieved it in 21 days. It grinds me paying any fee for a right but it’s better than now being able to (legally) at all | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Interesting connection with voting. There was a scandal that broke in the Contra Costa County (Bay Area), most of the people in the county who were issued a CCW also happened to be a contributor to the Sheriff's fund. What a coincidence! Apparently, it wasn't just Contra Costa. I was searching to find an article to post and I thought this was was a good article to post but it's another neighboring county - Santa Clara. Sheriff Campaign Scandal: 4 Indicted in Concealed Carry ‘Pay to Play' Scheme "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Fourth line skater |
Here in the state of Colorado I can open carry for nothing. But, it still requires money to enjoy the Second Amendment. The cost of the firearm. _________________________ OH, Bonnie McMurray! | |||
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I have no doubt. I lived in Alameda county and the father of a friend had a CCW and he admitted to making a donation to the “sheriff posse” ( auxiliary charitable arm of sheriff office) anyway I started researching and found a website where somebody had FOIA’d all the renewal ccw in alameda and except for about 3 where the letter stated a need because they were a jewelery store, every other one were along the lines of “ good to see you at the fundraiser the other night, please find my donation check and ccw renewal request”. this was several sheriffs prior to the current | |||
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Good grief, the fees! Ky charges about 135 for initial training and fees, 50 every 5 years to renew. I keep mine current even though we have constitutional carry, just to expedite purchases. It amuses me when customers at the store say they won't get a permit because they don't want to get on a list. Who the hell do they think runs every background check? | |||
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In Cali, it is $300 for the 8 hour class inc. range test, $210 for the psych eval., and 100 to the sheriff. So $610 total. Renewal after 2 years is $150 to do the range test, plus something for the Sheriff. My Utah and Arizona out of state permits are about $65 each, and good for five years. -c1steve | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
$610.00 for a permit is definitely steep for sure. Arizona is $48.00 at this time (Mrs. Flash just renewed) and Utah is $25.00 (I just renewed). Those are much more reasonable. | |||
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