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November 28, 2021, 09:58 PM
LoboGunLeather
Ghislaine Maxwell Has Final Pretrial Hearing
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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by GT-40DOC:
I hope that she gets offered a deal if she will tell all she knows on all people involved. I believe that there would be many well known names mentioned.


Given recent history, I’d be surprised if anyone of real consequence is exposed. There was a prostitution sting around here not long ago and everyone got off free as a bird because the John list included local politicians, police, religious leaders etc. the whole thing just went away.


Just a couple of points:

1. Judge Nathan granted the motion to redact evidence to hide any ‘sensational’ or ‘impure’ information. Judge Nathan was nominated to higher office in the US 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals last week by Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/...s-courts-2021-11-17/

2. The lead prosecutor is Maurene Comey - yes, daughter of James Comey.
https://www.businessinsider.co...-epstein-case-2019-7


Celebrity show trial? Great entertainment!


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November 28, 2021, 11:26 PM
46and2
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Judge Nathan granted the motion to redact evidence to hide any ‘sensational’ or ‘impure’ information.

Sounds like the trial has been compromised already.
November 29, 2021, 06:57 AM
Graniteguy
Quite the circus of characters. No doubt the primary goal of the prosecution and judge will be to protect the guilty pedophiles that should be exposed in a trial of this magnitude.
November 29, 2021, 10:30 AM
pulicords
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by GT-40DOC:
I hope that she gets offered a deal if she will tell all she knows on all people involved. I believe that there would be many well known names mentioned.


Given recent history, I’d be surprised if anyone of real consequence is exposed. There was a prostitution sting around here not long ago and everyone got off free as a bird because the John list included local politicians, police, religious leaders etc. the whole thing just went away.


Just wondering how you knew who was on the list, if it wasn't disclosed in court? Speculation is not the same as disclosure of facts. Roll Eyes


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November 29, 2021, 10:37 AM
darthfuster
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Originally posted by pulicords:
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by GT-40DOC:
I hope that she gets offered a deal if she will tell all she knows on all people involved. I believe that there would be many well known names mentioned.


Given recent history, I’d be surprised if anyone of real consequence is exposed. There was a prostitution sting around here not long ago and everyone got off free as a bird because the John list included local politicians, police, religious leaders etc. the whole thing just went away.


Just wondering how you knew who was on the list, if it wasn't disclosed in court? Speculation is not the same as disclosure of facts. Roll Eyes


Not speculation at all. A friend told me. His daughter was one of the girls. She told him.


You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
November 29, 2021, 04:38 PM
tacfoley
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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:
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I can't imagine her in Witness Protection unless it was a fortified beautifully decorated castle in rural Europe.


Neuschwanstein ?



Just to remind you that the guy who built it, King Ludwig of Bavaria, was bat-shit crazy.
November 29, 2021, 04:41 PM
jhe888
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Originally posted by pulicords:

Just wondering how you knew who was on the list, if it wasn't disclosed in court? Speculation is not the same as disclosure of facts. Roll Eyes


Well, sure, but speculating about cover-ups and official misconduct is a lot more fun than what we actually know.



The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
November 29, 2021, 04:43 PM
jhe888
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Originally posted by darthfuster:



Not speculation at all. A friend told me. His daughter was one of the girls. She told him.


So . . . not speculation but double hearsay to you and triple hearsay to us?



The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
November 29, 2021, 05:01 PM
slosig
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Originally posted by jhe888:
So . . . not speculation but double hearsay to you and triple hearsay to us?

Dang man, all these legal terms are harshing the buzz. Next thing, someone will be talking about evidence and facts and stuff. Wink
November 29, 2021, 07:36 PM
wrightd
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by GT-40DOC:
I hope that she gets offered a deal if she will tell all she knows on all people involved. I believe that there would be many well known names mentioned.


Given recent history, I’d be surprised if anyone of real consequence is exposed. There was a prostitution sting around here not long ago and everyone got off free as a bird because the John list included local politicians, police, religious leaders etc. the whole thing just went away.

Bingo right there. Par for the course.



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November 29, 2021, 07:39 PM
wrightd
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IDK. She comes from money. Her father Robert Maxwell died in a suspicious fashion. I can't imagine her in Witness Protection unless it was a fortified beautifully decorated castle in rural Europe.

No witness protection of any kind could protect her after giving up big names. Those guys operate at another level and always get their way. Don't know how it gets done but it gets done. Like when KGB ops make people disappear without a trace or murdered without leaving actionable evidence, or evidence prosecutors wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole for fear of certain retaliation.



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November 29, 2021, 07:42 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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No witness protection of any kind could protect her after giving up big names. Those guys operate at another level and always get their way. Don't know how it gets done but it gets done. Like when KGB ops make people disappear without a trace.

^^^^^^^^
They do a good job at Witness Protection. Lots of Mafia folks lived out their lives in suburbia.
November 30, 2021, 12:09 PM
sdy
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2...f-this-right-n432170

Ghislaine Maxwell’s defense attorneys on Monday portrayed her as a scapegoat being accused because of “the bad behavior of men,” — one in particular — since prosecutors never had a chance to put late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein on trial.

Her lawyer, Bobbi Sternheim, invoked the Bible at the start of her opening statement, arguing that women have been condemned for crimes committed by men since the beginning of time.

“Ever since Eve was accused of tempting Adam with the apple,” said Sternheim. “Women have been blamed for the bad behavior of men.”
November 30, 2021, 12:19 PM
chellim1
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Ghislaine Maxwell’s defense attorneys on Monday portrayed her as a scapegoat being accused because of “the bad behavior of men,” — one in particular — since prosecutors never had a chance to put late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein on trial.

Nice try... but she's accused of her own crimes.
Yes, they may have been committed in service to “the bad behavior of men,” but they were still her crimes.


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November 30, 2021, 12:22 PM
radioman
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Originally posted by Lunasee:
True love is when you can finish your partners sentences for them.



I see what you did there.


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November 30, 2021, 01:15 PM
darthfuster
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by darthfuster:



Not speculation at all. A friend told me. His daughter was one of the girls. She told him.


So . . . not speculation but double hearsay to you and triple hearsay to us?


Would you like her phone number or do you already have it?


You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
November 30, 2021, 01:53 PM
ersatzknarf
Saw what you did there, my brother Big Grin



November 30, 2021, 03:04 PM
PASig
I noticed the media today has been trying to make this all about Trump.

He still lives rent-free in their heads 24/7/365

The pilot for Maxwell and that dead scumbag has been stating he knew Trump and flew him around too.

TRUMP
TRUMP
TRUMP
TRUMP

They just can't quit him Roll Eyes


November 30, 2021, 04:19 PM
darthfuster
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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:
Saw what you did there, my brother Big Grin
Razz


You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
December 01, 2021, 08:40 AM
ersatzknarf
While under oath during the Ghislaine Maxwell trial on Tuesday, pilot Larry Visoski Jr. was asked to describe his experience, to which he said "I certainly remember President Trump, but not many people associated with him," adding that he also flew Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, violinist Itzhak Perlman, former Senator John Glenn and Prince Andrew. 


https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ey-and-prince-andrew