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Methinks some marine is going to get his crayon ration reduced! I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. - Charlie Brooker | |||
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| Sigless in Indiana  |
The handguard is popped out of the delta ring. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
^^^^ And that's not even the real VCOG. Q | |||
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Perhaps it’s a trick of the angles, but the barrel appears not to be inline with the stock/buffer tube. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Yes, it is shockingly embarrassing to see a Commanding Officer of an Arleigh Burke class destroyer not realize that the scope was mounted backwards, I would offer the following. The main weapons of DDGS are not M4s. The officers and crew must be experts in the use of the Aegis weapons system and be masters in the areas of Anti-Air warfare, Anti-surface warfare, Anti-submarine warfare, Ballistic missile defense, Strike warfare and others. The M4 plays absolutely no role in any of those. I am going to guess that the CO in the picture has been to multiple schools for each of those warfare areas and dedicated more hours of study, standing watch, and simulations to master those specialties than we can imagine. I did coordinated ASW, Fleet Air Defense of the Carrier Strike Group, Tomahawk Watch Officer Course, and many others. It is a terrible look for the Navy when pictures like that come out, but please remember that those DDGs and the rest of the USN is out there every day doing those missions that only the USN can do. Speed is fine, but accuracy is final The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf -Ralph Peters | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
It's an illusion created by the improperly installed handguard. Hold a finger up in your eyeline to block out the handguard when looking at the image. The barrel is in line with the buffer tube. It just looks wonky when it's viewed directly next to the tilted handguard. Edit: Here, I'll make it easier.  | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Sure, next thing you'll tell us is that the whole rifle has a weird curve to it because the wide angle lens distorts the picture that way or some such thing.  | |||
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| If you see me running try to keep up  |
Still no excuse, if he had no clue what he was doing, it should not have been used for a photo op. If he didn't know, there were people under him who did. If he was that inept he should not be able to handle the weapon until he's familiar with it. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
Link Loss Of Confidence’: Navy Relieves Officer Once Pictured Shooting Rifle With Backwards Scope From Ship Command The U.S. Navy relieved an officer who was once photographed firing a weapon with an attached scope facing the wrong direction from the command of a missile destroyer ship on Friday. Rear Adm. Christopher Alexander, commander of the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group, relieved Cmdr. Cameron Yaste of his duties as the commanding officer of the USS John McCain, citing a “loss of confidence” in his ability to command the ship. Yaste and the Navy were ridiculed in April after he was pictured in a since-deleted Navy social media post firing a rifle with a scope that was attached to the weapon facing the wrong way. “The Navy holds commanding officers to the highest standards and holds them accountable when those standards are not met. Naval leaders are entrusted with significant responsibilities to their Sailors and their ships,” the Navy said in a statement announcing the move. “Yaste reported to assume the role as John S. McCain’s commanding officer in October 2023. He has now been temporarily reassigned to Naval Surface Group Northwest.” The ship is presently on a deployment in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations, a zone that includes the Arabian gulf, Gulf of Oman, Red Sea, segments of the Indian Ocean, and several pivotal points of the Strait of Hormuz, Suez Canal and the Strait of Bab al-Mandeb, according to the Navy. The Iran-backed Houthi terrorists have repeatedly attacked commercial vessels and American forces operating in the area since Hamas started its ongoing war with Israel on Oct. 7, 2023. The Navy’s statement did not provide any details on specific factors or incidents that may have contributed to the decision to relieve Yaste. The Navy did not respond immediately to the Daily Caller News Foundation’s request for comment. | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
As embarrassing as the photo was, there had to be more going wrong for him to get fired from command. | |||
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I believe that members of the crew did that on purpose knowing he was gonna have his picture taken with it. | |||
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| Political Cynic |
RR and Rogue may be on to something. Would be interesting to get other details of his command such as was he liked or loathed. | |||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
One would think that someone intelligent enough to be trusted with a ship and her crew could figure out something was wrong the minute he looked through the optic, regardless of his level of training. Even at x1, the view through the scope would be 'bad' to say the least. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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| Freethinker |
If it was a deliberate prank to embarrass the commander, it’s not the sort of thing that could have been pulled off anonymously, like snitching an extra helping of strawberries. The commander would have known who gave him the rifle and as soon as word got out about the embarrassing picture he would have been on that person’s ass. The person in turn would have been on someone else’s butt until it was determined who started the chain. How good would it look for the person who had access to the weapons to say, “I didn’t notice it”? Isn’t it your job to notice such things? It could have been deliberate and possibly anonymous if the rifle went into a rack with others and there were a number of people who could have mounted it that way, but then how would anyone have known that it was going to the commander for a picture at a particular time? Anonymously deliberate just to “screw with the system”? Sure. Deliberate for that outcome? … Not knowing much about the Navy, what’s the chance it was not deliberate and just the result of incompetent ignorance? That seems unlikely if weapons like that were checked after work like that, but can anyone comment on that possibility? And as for knowing something was “bad” when looking through the wrong end of the scope, has anyone ever done that? I just checked an SAI 1-6× LPVO and although the reticle appears upside down, it and the distant image were clear. The reticle was obviously odd, but only because I was familiar with how it was supposed to look. When an Army JSOC general writes a book and says that snipers can use the wind to curve bullets around buildings to hit targets a mile away, the fact that a Navy Commander wouldn’t recognize a problem with a small arms sight that he had no prior experience with doesn’t strike me as too outrageous. ► 6.4/93.6 “It is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not desire.” — Thucydides; quoted by Victor Davis Hanson, The Second World Wars | |||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm.  |
Very few people are qualified to be in command of a billion-dollar warship. I hope we don't run out of them. | |||
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Very few Officers are, apply that percentage to the general population (which all Officers are), even enlisted...and you get WAY more qualified folks. The Navy, by design is pulling from an already small and dwindling pool. I'm not insulting Officers, more just saying that the skills required aren't always X's and O's. It's the same as not everyone is cut out to be a manager, those skills are less taught than inherent. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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This one, is another example of the Navy chewing-up and spitting-out their ship commanders. In short, his ship had repeated steering problems, repeatedly put in requests to have tech reps to come out and help fix the issue, reps comes out but no fixes are done. UNREP is done, malfunction at teh worst possible time, emergency breakaway results in damaged equipment to another ship and the rest is history.  How much training could've prevented the near collision? Did the helmsman and OOD not do what they were supposed to do? The US Navy sacked a destroyer captain after a persistent steering problem led to a Middle East near-miss
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A Grateful American |
Very likely he was looking at miles of empty deep blue water, and had no reference/feedback to inform his eyes/brain. Often "publicity shots" (what we called "Grip and Grin" for all such official photos) are staged. Put gun to eye, start popping rounds, and that's a wrap. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
We did "surprise" emergency breakaways for a variety of reasons (drills). Steering control was one scenario along with others. When performed correctly, no equipment damage will occur when the "emergency" is properly communicated. Ie., the drill to the OOD is loss of steering. Situation communicated to other shipt and less the 15 seconds later, horns a blaring and each ship does the emergency detaching and steaming away or, in the case of the ship with lost steering, they do nothing after the detaching until the other ship clears. Oh a carrier all the above, from telling the OOD his ship has lost steering control (if that’s the drill scenario) occurs in about 90 seconds as i recall. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| The Main Thing Is Not To Get Excited  |
Totally agree. And I'll bet you an inflated dollar that it was a gunner's mate that put the scoped rifle in his hands. And with no proof whatsoever I'll bet again that the CO had his mind on the phot not what he was looking at which was probably empty ocean. I think it would have been better handled if they, whoever they is, wanted him gone that they just called him on the carpet and said, "pack your trash, you piss me off." Initially I thought it was kind of funny, now I think he got the shaft. _______________________ | |||
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