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I bought a kindle book on my iPad. Not a novel but more like a text book or workbook. I thought it would be convenient and easy to read and search. And print out certain pages of reference info and workbook type pages so I can write down answers. Btw, I thought I'd be able to write in the book on screen like for pdfs. No joy.

Anyway, now I know kindle doesn't let you print anything. Wish I would have know before I bought the ebook. I would have just bought the physical paper book.

I know people liked kindle. I thought I might give it a try. Perhaps it's okay for just reading novels. But no more kindle for me.




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I tried one kindle book, a favorite of mine that I've read at least half a dozen times, "Riders of the Purple Sage" by Zane Gray.

Books are meant to be on paper, not a glowing screen, I didn't finish that book.

Of course, I have a least one paper copy buried somewhere.


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I’m a major bibliophile. I LOVE hardback, antique, hardcopy books. That being said, I have a kindle. I primarily use it on airlines; taking a hardback in my carryon is a PITA. Since they were made just to READ, they do excel at that. You can still highlight text to find later and it has a nice dictionary feature, too. I also like that I can download new books on the go. Hardcopies do have their limitations.


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As to printing, I think to do that on Kindle stuff you would have to get into breaking DRM and converting to a different file format.

Of course as a workaround, one could use the operating system tools to take screenshots while reading, and those screenshots are just normal image files and could be printed and managed by any image editors.

As to adding notes/comments, the Kindle reader has some functionality built in for that. You can add notes on Kindle books by using the highlight functions.

Select the text and then you get an option to create a note that will be linked to the text you just highlighted. That will show up graphically on the page to let you know there's a note available, and if you have the viewer set to 'show notebook' it'll show the notes themselves on the side. I just stuck two notes in one of my Kindle books so you can see:


I don't know that this is as extensive as you may be hoping for, but maybe it'll help.
 
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Can't you just convert to PDF then print?
 
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You can download your highlights, open in MS Word, edit as you like.
Of course now that I think about it Iread Kindle books on an iPhone, iPad or sometimes computer.


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Can you PRINT SCREEN, PASTE to paint, FILE as a pix?



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Thanks. I don't know how to break drm or convert to pdf. I'm gonna guess that if it were easy, the book would just be printable. But I'll look into it.

Screen shot and print kind of works but the scaling and aspect are off. Better than nothing I guess. But pretty tedious to do frequently.

Taking sidebars notes is not ideal. The workbook has fill in the blank exercises. Side bar notes are a little cumbersome then.

I'll try highlighting and cutting/pasting. Hopefully that will work and lend itself to sections or a page or two at a time rather than just a sentence.

I regret the ebook. Paper would have worked better I think.




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If you have a Windows PC you can press the Windows Key and Print Screen key and it will put the screen shots in succession in the "Pictures\Screenshots" folder with Screenshot (1) and so on with increasing number for each consecutive
image.

Then you can open the
Screenshots folder, with the images sorted in the correct first to last order, hold the Shift Key, left click the last image, then while still holding the Shift Key, left click on the first image.

Then Right Click the mouse, select Print from the drop menu, and change printer to "PDF" and print.

It should print them to a single PDF.

You can use various free "PDF Print" drivers, like CutePDF, Windows PDF, etc.

No breaking DRM, and you can do many images to a single file.

Adobe also has a "Combine Files/Images" feature.

Give the "WinKey/Print Screen" a try and let me know how it goes.




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Sounds like a monkey like me could do it.

I'll see if I can do this in macOS. If not, I'll try to install or access Kindle on windows. I just use the kindle app on Mac and iPad.




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For MacOS try the following for the screen shots.

https://www.ias.edu/itg/conten...screen-shot-mac-os-x

(parapragh C)

It saves them to the Desktop, but I think you can change that in the Screen Shot tool under Options.

I'll check back in the morning...




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Thanks! Will try it out.




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Books are meant to be on paper, not a glowing screen


My thoughts exactly. My son gave me a Kindle, never tried it.
I love the aroma when you walk into a bookstore.
 
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Originally posted by newtoSig765:
I tried one kindle book, a favorite of mine that I've read at least half a dozen times, "Riders of the Purple Sage" by Zane Gray.

Books are meant to be on paper, not a glowing screen, I didn't finish that book.

Of course, I have a least one paper copy buried somewhere.

You’re a troglodyte. Smile

Re: “Of course, I have a least one paper copy buried somewhere.”

Yeah, buried somewhere. That’s part of the problem with paper books. If I had paper copies of all my books I’d have to build new bookshelves and find a place to put ‘em. But they require only a few percent of the space in my Kindle Paperwhite (Signature Edition).

Also I have lots of books by three authors that often use uncommon words. It’s so handy to just put my finger on the word to get a dictionary description of it.

And I often read books with a LOT of characters. If I see a mention of a character that I don’t remember, I put my finger on the character name and “find in book”. That lists all mentions of that character (with a few lines of context) in location order. Usually the first mention is the character introduction.

And I can use the Kindle search facility to find all mentions of a specific word in my book. Or in Wikipedia.

And if I’m waiting in my dentist’s office I can open the Kindle app on my iPhone, then open my current book and find it positioned to the exact location where I finished reading on my Kindle.

Illustrations are poorly rendered on a Kindle, but otherwise I consider my Kindle to provide a much better reading experience.



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My first e-reader was a Palm Pilot and that's where I got started with the epubs. I now have over a thousand e-books all in epub format. My current reader is a Kobo. I looked at the Kindle but couldn't find out if it would accept my current epub library. I also have copies of all my books on my PC which lets me have access to all of them for copying and pasting on occasion.


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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
For MacOS try the following for the screen shots.

https://www.ias.edu/itg/conten...screen-shot-mac-os-x

(parapragh C)

It saves them to the Desktop, but I think you can change that in the Screen Shot tool under Options.

I'll check back in the morning...


This and the suggestions above seem to be working. I can take screen shots, convert them to PDF, type in answers into blanks, highlight and annotate in location.

A little cumbersome for the uninitiated but I think this will work.

Thanks!!!!!!

I need to play with this more: keep the captures in the right order when converting to PDF. How to add screen captures to the same PDF over time (hopefully possible and w/o using prior edits / annotations).

It would be nice if kindle just allowed this natively.... Future books like this may be paper but at least perhaps I don't need to re-buy this same book as paper.

Thanks again!!




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My pleasure.




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You’re a troglodyte. Smile

Re: “Of course, I have a least one paper copy buried somewhere.”

Yeah, buried somewhere. That’s part of the problem with paper books...

Make that PROUD troglodyte!

I had a long response typed out, then deleted as too serious. I'll just summarize it by saying that I see as many drawbacks to your electric library as you see conveniences.

Besides, as to your dentist's office, it's difficult to beat the satisfaction of reading my copy of "The Federalist Papers" in the waiting room of my local hospital where my GF does physical therapy and watching the lib therapists' hair catch fire! Cool

Finally, those e-books expire, my paper books don't, and can't be edited after-the-fact as your e-books can be. One e-dition of "The Virginian" is missing part of a chapter where the Judge tells the schoolmarm how hanging cattle thieves is justified, that part is permanently in my paper copy.

Oh, and I'll just mention my copy of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" autographed for me by Greg Boyington at Oshkosh in about 1980. And my first-edition of "The Cobra Story" by Carroll Shelby. They're buried somewhere, too, but I'm sitting right now within a couple feet of the pile.

On the negative side, my book collection weighs a lot more than your electric library! Eek


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I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is.
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Finally, those e-books expire, my paper books don't, and can't be edited after-the-fact as your e-books can be.

I don’t think e-books expire. A book on my Kindle doesn’t change even if Amazon provides a new edition of the book. Furthermore, I back-up my Kindle with Time Machine on my MacBook occasionally.

And e-books on my Kindle can’t be edited. I can add Clippings (Notes and Highlights), but that doesn’t change the book text.



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those e-books expire
The e-books that I borrow from the County Public Library expire, but the e-books that I buy, do not expire.



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