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Kim Gardner Confiscates McCloskey's AR-15

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July 16, 2020, 02:26 PM
spunk639
Kim Gardner Confiscates McCloskey's AR-15
Tanksoldier, having been a police Officer and now a member of the bar, I’m curious if you see a warrant to seize the weapons absent any investigation into the other crimes in the circumstances as troubling. By troubling I mean there’s no investigation into the trespassing, destruction of private property, the assault and asssault by means of weapons against the McKlosky family. The threats of death and arson against them, but to name a few. In the jurisdiction I worked we took an oath as police to support, uphold and defend the constitution of the state and the United States, unless the officers executing the warrant are drones how could they not know their office is being used for a malicious intent and political prosecution in contravention to established state and federal law. The affiant for the warrant isn’t a prosecutor it’s a police officer how are they not complicit?
July 16, 2020, 04:18 PM
murphman
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Interesting we hear nothing about arrests for protestors that trespassed and broke into private property, damaged property, threatened people with damage and harm..


Certainly not surprising, though.
1. Doesn't fit the prevailing political narrative.
2. It's always easier and safer to investigate, serve warrants on, arrest, and prosecute decent citizens as opposed to violent criminals.


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July 16, 2020, 04:55 PM
h2oys
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Originally posted by murphman:
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Interesting we hear nothing about arrests for protestors that trespassed and broke into private property, damaged property, threatened people with damage and harm..


Certainly not surprising, though.
1. Doesn't fit the prevailing political narrative.
2. It's always easier and safer to investigate, serve warrants on, arrest, and prosecute decent citizens as opposed to violent criminals.


Or that the reported weapons the criminals were pointing at the McKloskeys were confiscated.
July 16, 2020, 06:33 PM
AH.74
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Originally posted by tanksoldier:
I don’t know the details of the investigation, but there was enough for a judge to sign a warrant.


And what about that Judge? Just because the warrant was signed doesn't mean the Judge isn't just as much a POS as the Circuit Attorney.


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July 16, 2020, 06:36 PM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by h2oys:
quote:
Originally posted by murphman:
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Interesting we hear nothing about arrests for protestors that trespassed and broke into private property, damaged property, threatened people with damage and harm..


Certainly not surprising, though.
1. Doesn't fit the prevailing political narrative.
2. It's always easier and safer to investigate, serve warrants on, arrest, and prosecute decent citizens as opposed to violent criminals.


Or that the reported weapons the criminals were pointing at the McKloskeys were confiscated.


The protestors had guns and were pointing them at the McKloskeys? Any proof of that?
July 16, 2020, 07:49 PM
egregore
I don't know that the protesters rioters had any weapons. But a mob doesn't need weapons to inflict bodily harm or kill.
July 16, 2020, 07:51 PM
h2oys
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Originally posted by Dwill104:
quote:
Originally posted by h2oys:
quote:
Originally posted by murphman:
quote:
Interesting we hear nothing about arrests for protestors that trespassed and broke into private property, damaged property, threatened people with damage and harm..


Certainly not surprising, though.
1. Doesn't fit the prevailing political narrative.
2. It's always easier and safer to investigate, serve warrants on, arrest, and prosecute decent citizens as opposed to violent criminals.


Or that the reported weapons the criminals were pointing at the McKloskeys were confiscated.


The protestors had guns and were pointing them at the McKloskeys? Any proof of that?


That was reported by the local news here in St. Louis. Then suddenly you didn't see the video or any further comment thereof.
July 16, 2020, 07:54 PM
parabellum
Stop with the nested quotes, please. Look at all the real estate you took up the page just so you could respond with two sentences.
July 16, 2020, 08:00 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by Dwill104:

The protestors had guns and were pointing them at the McKloskeys? Any proof of that?


One of the rioters, according to Mr. Mccloskey, did take out two pistol magazines and clinked them together in the air while verbally making a threat towards him. So there is that.


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July 16, 2020, 08:46 PM
airsoft guy
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Originally posted by egregore:
I don't know that the protesters rioters had any weapons. But a mob doesn't need weapons to inflict bodily harm or kill.


The mob is the weapon.



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July 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
V-Tail
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Originally posted by M-11:
One of my concerns is that Mrs. M has her finger on the trigger.
Shouldn't you be more concerned with the position of her finger on the trigger, looks like too much finger..... Roll Eyes
Looks like we're gonna need a bigger trigger.



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July 17, 2020, 03:52 PM
RVF400
spunk639 nailed it.
July 20, 2020, 12:30 AM
FiveFiveSixFan
Link

Parson says pardon likely if St. Louis couple charged

Missouri Gov. Mike Parson told a radio host that based on the information he’s received, it’s likely he would pardon a white St. Louis couple if they are charged for brandishing guns during a racial injustice protest outside their mansion.

Democratic Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner is investigating Mark and Patricia McCloskey, both in their 60s, for an incident on June 28. Protesters who were marching to the nearby home of Mayor Lyda Krewson walked onto the private street where the McCloskeys live.

The couple accused demonstrators of knocking down an iron gate marked with “No Trespassing” and “Private Street” signs, though a protest leader has said the gate was already open and no protesters damaged it. The McCloskeys came outside with weapons — him with a long-barreled gun and her with a small handgun.

Their actions, captured on video and viewed by millions, drew praise from some who said they were legally defending their home, but scorn from others who said they risked bloodshed by displaying the weapons. Photos emerged as memes on both sides of the gun debate.

Gardner has not disclosed whether she intends to file charges, but several leading Republicans — including President Donald Trump, Sen. Josh Hawley and Parson — have criticized her for even deciding to investigate the couple. Parson cited Missouri’s “castle doctrine” law that justifies lethal force for those protecting their homes. Hawley is seeking a U.S. Department of Justice investigation of Gardner.

In an interview Friday on the Marc Cox Morning Show on 97.1 FM in St. Louis, Parson was asked if he would consider a pardon.

“I think that’s exactly what would happen,” Parson said. He later added that based on what he knows about the case, “I don’t think they’re going to spend any time in jail.”

Parson on Saturday retweeted a link to the interview on his personal Twitter page. An email message left with his spokeswoman was not immediately returned.

A spokeswoman for Gardner declined comment, citing the ongoing investigation.
July 20, 2020, 02:13 AM
sigmonkey
God bless Missouri Governor Mike Parson, a man who's life experiences make his declaration very important in such a matter.

My hope is that it not come to a need for a pardon, but glad to hear he is in the corner of the People.




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July 20, 2020, 07:53 AM
Jimmo952
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Originally posted by airsoft guy:
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
I don't know that the protesters rioters had any weapons. But a mob doesn't need weapons to inflict bodily harm or kill.


The mob is the weapon.


Good point and very true.
July 20, 2020, 09:07 AM
Hound Dog
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Originally posted by Jimmo952:
quote:
Originally posted by airsoft guy:

The mob is the weapon.


Good point and very true.


Yeah, I'm REALLY tired of the media 'narrative' about people defending themselves with firearms. The msm will claim "blah blah blah unarmed assailant, as if that means anything. Or, they will say 'unarmed man with a knife' to somehow imply the shooter was not justified.

Plenty of people have been incapacitated and/or killed with just the assailant's bare hands. Mobs are even more dangerous, as they develop an almost feral 'pack mentality.' If I were attacked or threatened by such a mob, ALL options would be on the table for my defense against it.

Oh, and these thugs are NOT 'protestors,' they are RIOTERS or MOBS.



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July 20, 2020, 09:36 AM
XinTX
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Trump "came after me for doing my job and investigating a case."


If Gardner were indeed "doing her job" she'd investigate the mob for vandalism and criminal trespass.


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July 20, 2020, 09:55 AM
erj_pilot
^^^^^^





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July 20, 2020, 10:20 AM
IndianaBoy
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Originally posted by divil:
Good. I hope that bought and paid for Soros stooge feels the heat. I hope the scrutiny is unbearable. It could not be levied against a more deserving recipient.



She doesn't care. Her type are a protected class. Just like Lois Lerner (IRS targeting) and Eric Holder (fast and furious).

Leftist bureaucrats never face heat for abusing their power, even to egregious levels of people losing their lives or elections being influenced.

Such is the disgusting swamp of big city and federal politics.
July 20, 2020, 04:26 PM
Skins2881
St. Louis' top prosecutor says she's charging couple who flashed guns at crowd marching to mayor's office

Felony unlawful use of a weapon and assault.



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