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Political Cynic |
sounds like the 'judge' needs a lesson in the second amendment and what separation of powers really means his job is to administer, not write the law he probably missed that part in his Introduction to the Law class while he was picking his nose. [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
A) The judge is a nut with an ax to grind B) Either FL law is very different or the judge is really stretching C) Thank you to whomever posted the opinion. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Courts interpret the law. They cannot write the law (though assholes like this Twatwaffle) want to do both. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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As others, I'm confused: 1) Why is a judge indicating that laws should be crafted by the court? Pass law school? 2) Why does a victim need to prove anything? 3) Why does the AG want to prosecute a victim? If not for the assailant, there would be no victim. AG really have nothing better to do than to try to prosecute somebody, anybody each time there is a crime, even if only the victim is left? These are the same type of people who would criminalize a rape victim for the clothes they wore. Seriously, how do we get rid of these people, at least from office if not the gene pool? Too stupid to live. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Murder - The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. How does this chart relate to stand your ground? Are not guilty of misconduct killing stats included in the chart, why? Criminal actor learning curve, could fit the several year chart bump in that case. | |||
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I posted the graph to disprove the statement from the linked article (above) that, "In the years since the (Stand Your Ground) law went into effect, the state's murder rate has shot up dramatically". The wording from that statement makes it sound like the murder rate shot up after the law went into effect and has continued to rise ever since. That (from the graph) is obviously not true. Another point: Just because the murder rate increased after the law went into effect does not mean that that was caused by the law. I don't understand your other two questions. Loyalty Above All Else, Except Honor ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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JHE, could you please comment #3 above by Konata ? I've always wondered the exact same thing for years. Are these people evil ? I can't believe they are, so I obviously don't understand why prosecutors prosecute victims who are likely not guilty in an affirmative defense ? Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Justified killings are not murder. If the Murder chart includes Non Murder data, very possible now days. It takes a while for crimes with less lethal outcomes to become preference, thus the chart bump up in murders?This message has been edited. Last edited by: springnr, | |||
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The source of this data is http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/. They source their data from the FBI - Uniform Crime report. So this should not include justifiable homicides. The FBI-UCR has seperate tables for that. I think it's a possible theory that murders spiked temporarily, because some criminals thought they could use the SYG law to cover their murders. Once they found out they couldn't, murders declined. It's a theory. The rise could just have easily been caused something else. Loyalty Above All Else, Except Honor ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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| Corgis Rock |
Correct me if I'm wrong. My memory is that Zimmerman did not raise the "stand you ground" defense. http://www.tampabay.com/news/c...-ground-laws/2131629 http://abcnews.go.com/US/flori...es/story?id=22543929 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/g...your-ground-defense/ “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
Yes, I remember their shenanigans during the whole Bush v Gore imbroglio. They essentially ignored the state law, and later even SCOTUS to keep the recount going. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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