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Route 91 fest Vegas shooting?

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October 08, 2017, 09:43 PM
46and2
Route 91 fest Vegas shooting?
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How it possible to gamble in Las Vegas and come out $5 million ahead in a year?

Poker, for one.

In 2016, for example, the Top 100 money earners made between $1-16.4 Million each, and that's only the above-board money in governed tournaments, invitationals, ones on TV, etc.

Even the 200th guy made more than $600,000, and the 300th guy made more than $400,000, and some of these guys play $100,000+ side games with some regularity.

Paddock isn't in that list, but it only covers the professional Poker circuit. Regular cash tables in all the casinos and other weekly/monthly games aren't factored into this list.

Between all of this, all Black Jack, all illegal/side gambling/home games, etc, there are probably quite a few folks who somehow hit $5,000,000 per year simply from cards.

But it's still a small-ish list, and his name isn't one that's normally associated with those circles, and I'm not in Vegas enough to know whether he's known in the local scene.
October 08, 2017, 09:50 PM
cslinger
Occams Razor. People suck. Evil exists. Some people want to kill you and that is a really hard concept for any of us to wrap our heads around. I get wanting a "rational" motive. It's natural to want to ask the why. I mean it's almost better if the motive is terrorism because agree/disagree we can wrap our heads around the fact that person or group X is fighting do Drive some political/social change. We may not agree, we may think they are savage animals but at the end of the day we can tell ourselves they had a "reason". It's horrifying if the why is "evil/monster/insane". Horrifying because most of us cannot wrap our head around that and that's a good thing. Hell I would be in therapy if I ever had to harm a human being for completely legitimate fear for my life reasons. I've said it before and I will say it again. These things make me said and scared because monsters exist and they don't care about you are the next guy. They just want to kill.

Even more terrifying is you CANNOT protect a "random" target. Everybody knows some jackass or another has wanted to take out every world leader since ever. Hence you can guard against it. Chief of police surely on a shit list or two counter measures can be taken. Some jacktard decides to take out a local Olive Garden because he didn't get enough olives in the salad......not a god damn thing can be done and I assure you those people are out there.


That being said I would totally go see the movie many of you are crafting.


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October 08, 2017, 10:43 PM
Sigmanic
I think that I have a theory that has been completely overlooked. What if Paddock (and possible accomplices) really wanted to kill only one particular person, but killed and wounded all the others too as a cover? The authorities are so overwhelmed that they can't even conceive of such a motive. It's a brilliant yet simple plan. Now, if we can only figure out who the real intended victim is we'll be well on our way to solving this mystery...
October 08, 2017, 10:53 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
I think that I have a theory that has been completely overlooked. What if Paddock (and possible accomplices) really wanted to kill only one particular person, but killed and wounded all the others too as a cover? The authorities are so overwhelmed that they can't even conceive of such a motive. It's a brilliant yet simple plan. Now, if we can only figure out who the real intended victim is we'll be well on our way to solving this mystery...


I can't tell. Is this a serious post or a joke?



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
October 08, 2017, 10:54 PM
cslinger
So the plan was to kill a single person.......in a crowd of 22,000......from 400 yards away......at night.......32 stories up.......with a .223 rifle......with a slide fire stock.

Sounds legit.


"Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man."
October 08, 2017, 10:58 PM
Sigmanic
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
I think that I have a theory that has been completely overlooked. What if Paddock (and possible accomplices) really wanted to kill only one particular person, but killed and wounded all the others too as a cover? The authorities are so overwhelmed that they can't even conceive of such a motive. It's a brilliant yet simple plan. Now, if we can only figure out who the real intended victim is we'll be well on our way to solving this mystery...


I can't tell. Is this a serious post or a joke?




Ooops, meant to add: Wink Big Grin Eek

Pure jest. Just trying to stay relevant in the conspiracy theory realm.
October 08, 2017, 11:04 PM
CPD SIG
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
I think that I have a theory that has been completely overlooked. What if Paddock (and possible accomplices) really wanted to kill only one particular person, but killed and wounded all the others too as a cover? The authorities are so overwhelmed that they can't even conceive of such a motive. It's a brilliant yet simple plan. Now, if we can only figure out who the real intended victim is we'll be well on our way to solving this mystery...



Overlooked?
Not at all! See, this "drifter" comes into town, he contacts the D.A. He's basically a ghost... no drivers license, no internet trace. Nothing but a bad-ass DD-214. He's kinda a cop, at least he used to be. He doesn't care about proof, he doesn't care about the law, he only cares about what's right....

He solves the conspiracy. Remember, no one finds Jack Reacher unless he wants to be found.


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October 08, 2017, 11:04 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
So the plan was to kill a single person.......in a crowd of 22,000......from 400 yards away......at night.......32 stories up.......with a .223 rifle......with a slide fire stock.

Sounds legit.


Time to bring in Jack Reacher to sort this all out.

ETA: Dang, CPD SIG, you beat my crappy joke by a few seconds.


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October 08, 2017, 11:13 PM
Sigmanic
Slight thread drift....but does anyone besides me think that Rosamund Pike is hawt?
October 09, 2017, 12:06 AM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
So the plan was to kill a single person.......in a crowd of 22,000......from 400 yards away......at night.......32 stories up.......with a .223 rifle......with a slide fire stock.

Sounds legit.


Time to bring in Jack Reacher to sort this all out.

ETA: Dang, CPD SIG, you beat my crappy joke by a few seconds.



Nobody would have checked that meter....not even me.



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October 09, 2017, 02:13 AM
chongosuerte
If it hasn't been said:

quote:
Bruce Wayne: Criminals aren't complicated, Alfred. Just have to figure out what he's after.

Alfred Pennyworth: With respect Master Wayne, perhaps this is a man that *you* don't fully understand, either. A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So, we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anybody who traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away.

Bruce Wayne: So why steal them?

Alfred Pennyworth: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.





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October 09, 2017, 03:03 AM
911Boss
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
Slight thread drift....but does anyone besides me think that Rosamund Pike is hawt?


I did until I saw “Gone Girl”, now she scares me. Don’t think anyone could act crazy that well without having some legit crazy inside...






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


October 09, 2017, 06:04 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
I think that I have a theory that has been completely overlooked. What if Paddock (and possible accomplices) really wanted to kill only one particular person, but killed and wounded all the others too as a cover? The authorities are so overwhelmed that they can't even conceive of such a motive. It's a brilliant yet simple plan. Now, if we can only figure out who the real intended victim is we'll be well on our way to solving this mystery...
Look at the first post on this page.


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October 09, 2017, 06:29 AM
parabellum
Feinstein: no gun laws could have prevented Las Vegas massacre
October 09, 2017, 07:11 AM
clubleaf206
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Yet she wants them banned, anyway. I think it was Tennessee Williams who said that only thing worse than a hypocrite was a hypocrite that is also a liar.


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October 09, 2017, 08:14 AM
feersum dreadnaught
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
So the plan was to kill a single person.......in a crowd of 22,000......from 400 yards away......at night.......32 stories up.......with a .223 rifle......with a slide fire stock.

Sounds legit.


Time to bring in Jack Reacher to sort this all out.

ETA: Dang, CPD SIG, you beat my crappy joke by a few seconds.



Nobody would have checked that meter....not even me.


Crazy stuff - he’s no Jack Reacher - he’s “The Accountant”. Duh.



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October 09, 2017, 08:58 AM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
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Yet she wants them banned, anyway.


That's probably exactly her point. "No gun laws would have prevented this... The only way to prevent it would be to get rid of all guns!"
October 09, 2017, 09:06 AM
Sig2340
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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
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Yet she wants them banned, anyway.


That's probably exactly her point. "No gun laws would have prevented this... The only way to prevent it would be to get rid of all guns!"


And she announced plans to run in 2018. She'll be 85.

Someone needs to splash water on her or drop a house on her.





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October 09, 2017, 09:07 AM
Flashlightboy
Right now, this shooting is the land based version of MH370.
October 09, 2017, 09:32 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
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Yet she wants them banned, anyway.
That's probably exactly her point. "No gun laws would have prevented this... The only way to prevent it would be to get rid of all guns!"
For fuck's sake, stop it

Good grief, guys, you can find the worst in anything. Cut it out!!!

I didn't post that item so that you could find something to bitch about in it.