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Route 91 fest Vegas shooting?
October 02, 2017, 09:29 AM
evolutionRoute 91 fest Vegas shooting?
Another question, if he was there since Thursday; did the room cleaners not go into the room in four days?
I always put the little "Do not disturb" sign on my door, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't open to resupply towels or something.
October 02, 2017, 09:31 AM
gw3971quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I'm seeing two broken windows. Did he have two gun platforms setup for multiple lines of fire? Sick bastard.
It feels like there won't be much closure for the victims here. This guy just sounds like a psychopath. Just senseless to the extreme.
Is this one big hotel room or several rooms?
October 02, 2017, 09:31 AM
dave7378Very sad day. What motivates a person to even contemplate this let alone carry it out? Must be one sick fuck. This tragedy is far from over.
I would imagine over the next few days we will start getting a picture of who this nut was. I'm sure the security footage will show him and how he got the weapons up to the room.
Thoughts and prayers to the injured and the families of the slain.
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October 02, 2017, 09:32 AM
HK Agquote:
Originally posted by corsair:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Looking at the Strip, the layout of these hotels, where do you put a stage and ~30,000 people in open air?
There's an open lot across the street from Luxor and just south of Tropicana. It's a small rectangular space that butts up against Las Vegas Blvd and the fence line of the private plane area of McCarran airport. The shooter was set-up in the hotel, shooting across LV Blvd down into this open lot.
Isn't this the space where they set up and film the Finals for American Ninja?
October 02, 2017, 09:34 AM
chellim1quote:
ISIS claims the shooter converted to Islam several months ago.
Huh....
Doesn't the typical radical Islam shooter usually make some sort of statement or video or shout Allahu Akbar or something?
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-rduckwor October 02, 2017, 09:35 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by gw3971:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I'm seeing two broken windows. Did he have two gun platforms setup for multiple lines of fire? Sick bastard.
It feels like there won't be much closure for the victims here. This guy just sounds like a psychopath. Just senseless to the extreme.
Is this one big hotel room or several rooms?
One room is my understanding.
~Alan
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October 02, 2017, 09:36 AM
Powers77quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Looking at the Strip, the layout of these hotels, where do you put a stage and ~30,000 people in open air?
There is an open area that I think is the NE corner of that intersection and across from the hotel. It's where the have concerts and the Ninja Warrior type events.
October 02, 2017, 09:37 AM
AUTiger89quote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
Just heard on the radio: AP is now reporting that ISIS is taking credit for the shooting. ISIS claims the shooter converted to Islam several months ago.
Just to clarify, AP also reports that there is no other evidence of this at this time, just ISIS taking credit.
Phone's ringing, Dude. October 02, 2017, 09:39 AM
corsairquote:
Originally posted by HK Ag:
quote:
Originally posted by corsair:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Looking at the Strip, the layout of these hotels, where do you put a stage and ~30,000 people in open air?
There's an open lot across the street from Luxor and just south of Tropicana. It's a small rectangular space that butts up against Las Vegas Blvd and the fence line of the private plane area of McCarran airport. The shooter was set-up in the hotel, shooting across LV Blvd down into this open lot.
Isn't this the space where they set up and film the Finals for American Gladiator?
I"m not sure but, that's a workable space for such a venue.
October 02, 2017, 09:39 AM
gw3971quote:
Originally posted by evolution:
Another question, if he was there since Thursday; did the room cleaners not go into the room in four days?
I always put the little "Do not disturb" sign on my door, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't open to resupply towels or something.
I have stayed in Vegas many times. I have a friend in Vegas who I go and shoot with. I have easily had that many guns in the hotel rooms there. kept them in the rooms because they are safer than keeping them in cars.
October 02, 2017, 09:40 AM
gw3971quote:
Originally posted by evolution:
Another question, if he was there since Thursday; did the room cleaners not go into the room in four days?
I always put the little "Do not disturb" sign on my door, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't open to resupply towels or something.
Most good hotels have a policy where they have to clean the room every so often but those policies are more strenuously enforced in the long stay hotels. A big hotel with complete turn over every couple of days would be hard to keep up with.
October 02, 2017, 09:42 AM
oddballquote:
Originally posted by justjoe:
Whatever-- there is more to this story than that some 64 year old white guy "snapped."
Just discovered this news story right now on the forum, haven't turned on the TV or seen any news sites. Reading through the details here, the above quote struck me the most.
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October 02, 2017, 09:42 AM
ryan81986quote:
Originally posted by evolution:
Another question, if he was there since Thursday; did the room cleaners not go into the room in four days?
I always put the little "Do not disturb" sign on my door, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't open to resupply towels or something.
I've left the do not disturb sign on for a week and room service never entered.
quote:
Originally posted by justjoe:
Whatever-- there is more to this story than that some 64 year old white guy "snapped."
Agreed. If this were an apartment building that overlooked a concert and he just lost his mind and started shooting because of it, that I'd consider "snapped". But this took lots of time and preparation.
October 02, 2017, 09:43 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by gw3971:
quote:
Originally posted by evolution:
Another question, if he was there since Thursday; did the room cleaners not go into the room in four days?
I always put the little "Do not disturb" sign on my door, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't open to resupply towels or something.
I have stayed in Vegas many times. I have a friend in Vegas who I go and shoot with. I have easily had that many guns in the hotel rooms there. kept them in the rooms because they are safer than keeping them in cars.
I've kept that do not disturb sign on my door sometimes for three to four days at a time. The cleaning people will not enter as long as that sign is on your door.
~Alan
Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
October 02, 2017, 09:44 AM
stiabquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
Doesn't the typical radical Islam shooter usually make some sort of statement or video or shout Allahu Akbar or something?
At this point how do we know that he didn't?
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October 02, 2017, 09:44 AM
AUTiger89quote:
Originally posted by AUTiger89:
quote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
Just heard on the radio: AP is now reporting that ISIS is taking credit for the shooting. ISIS claims the shooter converted to Islam several months ago.
Just to clarify, AP also reports that there is no other evidence of this at this time, just ISIS taking credit.
@ReutersUS: "Senior U.S. officials say no evidence Vegas shooter was connected to international militant group after ISIS claims responsibility"
Phone's ringing, Dude. October 02, 2017, 09:44 AM
BamaJeepsterquote:
Originally posted by corsair:
quote:
Originally posted by HK Ag:
quote:
Originally posted by corsair:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Looking at the Strip, the layout of these hotels, where do you put a stage and ~30,000 people in open air?
There's an open lot across the street from Luxor and just south of Tropicana. It's a small rectangular space that butts up against Las Vegas Blvd and the fence line of the private plane area of McCarran airport. The shooter was set-up in the hotel, shooting across LV Blvd down into this open lot.
Isn't this the space where they set up and film the Finals for American Gladiator?
I"m not sure but, that's a workable space for such a venue.
I put this together to help:
And here is the street view, venue to the left, looking at the Mandalay:
https://www.google.com/maps/@3...g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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- John Adams October 02, 2017, 09:45 AM
hunter62This is just crazy, I know there are usually several mass shootings a year, but I don't typically have someone I know in the middle of it.
He has sent me some videos of him and his wife running for shelter with the gunfire in the background, he asked that I not share so I wont, but it sends chills down my spine.
October 02, 2017, 09:46 AM
TigerDoreHere is an interview with Paddock's brother in Orlando, FL.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com...ws/94767317-132.html.
October 02, 2017, 09:49 AM
sdy
Two broken windows on the 32nd floor of the hotel where Stephen Paddock stood as he fire his gun
http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/02/...k-as-killer-6970986/