Route 91 fest Vegas shooting?

October 03, 2017, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by c1steve:
What about anti-depressant medications? The Columbine shooters had been on anti-depressants of some kind. I know that SSRI's and other meds can totally screw up one's thinking and emotions.

Sandy Hook, I am pretty sure that kid was on meds. I would expect that many if not most of these crazy mass shooters were not in their right mind because of meds. Hopefully any information on what this guy was on will come out, and not be suppressed.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am sure that the heavy hand of Big Pharma would try to quash any mention of meds and side effects involved in mass shootings. Better to blame the gun than on what makes them billions.

The young man at Sandy Hook had well known mental disparities, but was getting no treatment, IIRC.

Virtually nothing is known about this fellow right now, enogh to draw any conclusions about his mental health and personality, nothing that is too far from normal. Indeed, he seems stable, functioning rationally, pretty well adjusted on the surface from what is reported.

Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

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October 03, 2017, 01:06 PM

ChuckFinley

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I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am

going to throw out a big pharma conspiracy nonetheless.

Fixed it for you.

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October 03, 2017, 01:06 PM

Deqlyn

I have a new theory to go with my tie. No info is released so they can let the left bury themselves first. Seems like DJTs style. Or they got nothing as Para states. Probably that version.

October 03, 2017, 01:12 PM

S600MBUSA

quote:
Originally posted by c1steve:
What about anti-depressant medications? The Columbine shooters had been on anti-depressants of some kind. I know that SSRI's and other meds can totally screw up one's thinking and emotions.

Sandy Hook, I am pretty sure that kid was on meds. I would expect that many if not most of these crazy mass shooters were not in their right mind because of meds. Hopefully any information on what this guy was on will come out, and not be suppressed.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am sure that the heavy hand of Big Pharma would try to quash any mention of meds and side effects involved in mass shootings. Better to blame the gun than on what makes them billions.

Correlation does not equal causation. It's not surprising that the type of disturbed people who commit these kinds of acts have been treated for mental illness. They're getting meds because they've been identified as "crazy," not going crazy because they've been given meds.

Besides that, what about the millions of people who take these medications and somehow don't end up killing anyone?

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October 03, 2017, 01:18 PM

XLT

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Originally posted by sdy:

Erins facebook is down but her photography website is still up.

October 03, 2017, 01:21 PM

Mars_Attacks

Yelp is pruning her site, but google is not.

Yet.

October 03, 2017, 01:22 PM

Rigby470

Looks like he's been sending "large sums" of money overseas.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017...s-officials-say.html

October 03, 2017, 01:26 PM

jehzsa

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
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offenders.

That's pretty kind...

You might find a dictionary useful. It's a big book with a lot of words printed in it.

October 03, 2017, 01:30 PM

smithnsig

quote:
Originally posted by c1steve:
What about anti-depressant medications? The Columbine shooters had been on anti-depressants of some kind. I know that SSRI's and other meds can totally screw up one's thinking and emotions.

Sandy Hook, I am pretty sure that kid was on meds. I would expect that many if not most of these crazy mass shooters were not in their right mind because of meds. Hopefully any information on what this guy was on will come out, and not be suppressed.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am sure that the heavy hand of Big Pharma would try to quash any mention of meds and side effects involved in mass shootings. Better to blame the gun than on what makes them billions.

Ever heard of correlation causation? It's probably what they are being treated for, not the medication they are using.

October 03, 2017, 01:31 PM

callibird

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You actually think I was being serious?

Of all the people you will encounter online, I am one of the least likely to accept any sort of conspiracy theory. That's no joke. I am in probably the top one percentile of people who reject such nonsense outright, and enthusiastically.

Such crap always comes from loons or children who want to make the banality of the truth more interesting than ever it will be, by fabricating fairytales out of whole cloth.

I can see my post may be a little confusing...I was referring to bustabuddy's post, not yours. Should have just copied his original post. I am in agreement that the only real motive here is that the shooter was mentally deranged and unfortunately, he took 59 people with him and scarred hundreds more.

October 03, 2017, 01:36 PM

Chowser

Surefire 100 rnd mag or was it a 90 rnd mag? Can't remember which one they made. I have the 60 rnd mag and it's short.

Looked it up. 100 round magazine.

October 03, 2017, 01:37 PM

Dtech

I think that one thing can be said for sure, regardless of if any of his other guns were modified in a different way or if they were grandfathered pre 86 full auto, I think it is safe to say that Slide-fire and other similar bump stock or other trigger manipulation devices are not going to be legal for much longer. In the quest for some's desire to get around and skirt the law regarding full auto capability, these unregulated products were a problem just waiting to happen. None of them are going to survive this and IMHO, good riddance. I support the vast majority of firearms related products out there, but have never supported any of these.

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October 03, 2017, 01:40 PM

Sigolicious

Marine steals truck to transport injured to hospital

My guess is he needed to steal a truck so he could help out and haul his cajones at the same time. Semper Fi you glorious thief.

October 03, 2017, 01:41 PM

olfuzzy

Video tour of the shooters room (prior to the shooting) Couldn't get it to embed.

A video, shot in 2016 by a guest at the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas shows the exact room where Stephen Paddock, the suspect in Sunday’s deadly Las Vegas shooting stayed.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10...s-shooter-had-video/

October 03, 2017, 01:45 PM

sourdough44

FWIW, I check 3 large net sellers about the 'slide fire' stock. All 3 showed out of stock, with no backorder.

No I don't need one, just looking.

October 03, 2017, 01:45 PM

Sig2340

Fox just reported that Paddock owed $270,000 in legal fees from his failed slip and fall lawsuit at the Cosmopolitan.

I wonder if we've found the motive.

Even if you're well off, $270k is a dent in the lifestyle.

October 03, 2017, 01:49 PM

italia

quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
Fox just reported that Paddock owed $270,000 in legal fees from his failed slip and fall lawsuit at the Cosmopolitan.

I wonder if we've found the motive.

Even if you're well off, $270k is a dent in the lifestyle.

$270.00
Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock gambled and lost in 2012 slipping lawsuit
"The case was eventually tossed in 2014 – and Paddock still owed $270 in legal fees when he opened fire Sunday night."

October 03, 2017, 01:52 PM

KMitch200

quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
Fox just reported that Paddock owed $270,000 in legal fees from his failed slip and fall lawsuit at the Cosmopolitan.
I wonder if we've found the motive.
Even if you're well off, $270k is a dent in the lifestyle.

He lost a lawsuit so he kills 50+ people? C'mon man...
The guy was fucking nuts.

October 03, 2017, 01:53 PM

S600MBUSA

quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
Fox just reported that Paddock owed $270,000 in legal fees from his failed slip and fall lawsuit at the Cosmopolitan.

I wonder if we've found the motive.

Even if you're well off, $270k is a dent in the lifestyle.

The case was over with 3 years ago when he lost arbitration in 2014. Why wait that long to go nuts over the legal bills?

October 03, 2017, 01:53 PM

StarTraveler

Reading the story about the situation at the hospitals after the victims started arriving made my eyes misty. Kudos to all of the police, firemen, first responders, those on scene in the field as the bullets rained down, and to all of those at the hospitals who did as much as they could to save so many.

quote:
Originally posted by Sigolicious:
Marine steals truck to transport injured to hospital

My guess is he needed to steal a truck so he could help out and haul his cajones at the same time. Semper Fi you glorious thief.

Possibly, but he made at least one more trip to get more victims. The firing had probably stopped by then, but he definitely seemed to be trying to help.