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Route 91 fest Vegas shooting?
October 02, 2017, 06:15 PM
CopefreeRoute 91 fest Vegas shooting?
A bat-shit crazy multi-millionaire lunatic. This bitch was a sick, sick, human.
Just disgusting. The precision involved with pulling something like this off had to have taken him weeks to plot, if not months.
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October 02, 2017, 06:16 PM
BamaJeepsterABC News reporter:
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams October 02, 2017, 06:18 PM
CopefreePossession of fully automatic weapons is legal in Nevada. He probably went through the long process to legally obtain them (if they were indeed, truly fully automatic).
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October 02, 2017, 06:22 PM
46and2Perhaps a real link to Islam is actually present here in this situation. ^
It would at least be a bit easier to understand.
October 02, 2017, 06:23 PM
GrumpyBikerquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Maybe he had money problems, but if he did, he was a crazy man with money problems. Any motivation you might suggest has to be followed up with "But the real issue was that he was batshit insane."
It's just a feeling, mind you, but I think that no overt cause will be found, because such a cause does not exist. I think he was simply insane. You'd have to be.
And yet I'm sure that weirdo show of George Nory & that Prison Planet idiot will be spinning yarns by the end of the week about him being a patsy & referencing Oswald .
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October 02, 2017, 06:30 PM
mr kablammoAs posted above, the sick bastard must have planned this for weeks, or months. Regarding his father the bank robber, it brings to mind James Cagney at the end of White Heat. I wonder if the date of the concert has a personal signifigance, such as a birthday/death day, and he decided to go out in the ultimate psychopathic thrill. Rot in Hell.
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October 02, 2017, 06:40 PM
NikonUserSo, here's where I need help to understand the timeline.
It was reported that the firing started at 10:00PM or thereabouts, and lasted 4 and a half minutes by most reports I read.
It took SWAT/Police 72 minutes to get to his room and gain entry.
He was reportedly already dead.
So, did he kill himself five minutes after he started firing?
Did I misunderstand and firing went on for 72 minutes?
Or something between 5 minutes and 72 minutes?
I'm not looking for anything except to understand the timeline.
(And it's been a very sad day.)
October 02, 2017, 06:43 PM
SIGMYSTERSigned the Petition. 2477 signed currently.
Don't count me out till you see the box go in the hole!
October 02, 2017, 06:45 PM
nhtagmembersigned
up to 2497
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October 02, 2017, 06:50 PM
nhtagmemberjust starting to follow this - not going to watch the 'news' tonight - going to wait for the breathless speculation to subside and get down to facts
only two things I'd like to know:
1. was he a muslim convert
2. what was his registered political affiliation
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October 02, 2017, 06:50 PM
ersatzknarfquote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
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Does not work for me. I do not belong to FB (or any other social media), perhaps I need to log on?
I just clicked on this link and it worked for me. I'm not on any social media crap. Up to almost 900 signatures, BTW.
https://www.change.org/p/pamel...l-misconduct-against
Signed, now at 2,000.
This monster claims to be a "mommy." Don't think so. This POS has no maternal instinct and no morality. Apparently didn't learn anything from its parents either; probably another product of the indoctrination centers
Prayers for those innocents who lost their lives and prayers for their families and for those injured by the madman.
October 02, 2017, 06:54 PM
guardianangel762quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
just starting to follow this - not going to watch the 'news' tonight - going to wait for the breathless speculation to subside and get down to facts
only two things I'd like to know:
1. was he a muslim convert
2. what was his registered political affiliation
Who cares? Both things do not matter. As Trump said, this was evil. By grouping people into different things like religion or political groups it makes them easier to demonize and exterminate.
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But then of course I might be a 13 year old girl who reads alot of gun magazines, so feel free to disregard anything I post.
October 02, 2017, 06:54 PM
Ronin1069I don't normally get into the whole "we stand with..." stuff, but class act, Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/...-solidarity-with-us/ 
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October 02, 2017, 06:56 PM
ulstermanquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
There are many types of insanity. There are experts in the area that have studied the likes of serial killers, thrill killers and the like. Eventually, there will be a better understanding of the factors involved. There are clinical psychologists that are experts in the field. The FBI has long had a behavioral science unit devoted to figuring out what motivates individuals such as this. It is very annoying to see media types speculating as to the cause of this behavior.
There are many varieties of "insanity", ranging from psychosis, to psychopathy. Again, I have stated earlier most people would never leave home if they knew what goes through the minds of other human beings. Fortunately, most people do not act upon these thoughts.
If you would ever talk to one of the FBI behavioral science people, you start doubting your own sanity.
October 02, 2017, 06:58 PM
shovelheadquote:
Originally posted by Rinehart:
No doubt someone on the Huffpost or similar will create a job for the princess...
Hillary can always use another lawyer
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October 02, 2017, 07:02 PM
bald1quote:
Originally posted by guardianangel762:
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
just starting to follow this - not going to watch the 'news' tonight - going to wait for the breathless speculation to subside and get down to facts
only two things I'd like to know:
1. was he a muslim convert
2. what was his registered political affiliation
Who cares? Both things do not matter. As Trump said, this was evil. By grouping people into different things like religion or political groups it makes them easier to demonize and exterminate.
I disagree. Knowing if he was a convert would potentially clarify motivation. Knowing if he was a kool-aid drinking libtard, like the Republican ball team shooter, would also potentially clarify motivation. I grant that knowing this nutjobs motivation doesn't change what happened, still.... And no, I don't see such leading to any extermination or demonization.
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October 02, 2017, 07:06 PM
parabellumLooking at Fox now- it's all speculation- he placed large bets, but they don't know if he won or lost.
His family says he was a retired millionaire with no recognizable religious or political beliefs.
His girlfriend is in Tokyo.
OK
Hayzoos Kristo
Oh, and Fox reports that the guy's family says they believe that he just "snapped", but the police dismiss this outright, After all, it takes "months of planning" to bring a bunch of firepower into a hotel room and - get this-
set up cameras to see if the police come after him. Huh? Huh? Months of planning, if not years.
I'm looking at the facts as we know them and I'm wondering where is all the laborious planning. Think about what he did. Why are we ascribing genius to this? Please tell me the great difficulties the unassuming white guy with the Platinum Card had to overcome to set this up.
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October 02, 2017, 07:08 PM
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signed.
October 02, 2017, 07:10 PM
Rightwirequote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Looking at Fox now- it's all speculation- he placed large bets, but they don't know if he won or lost.
His family says he was a retired millionaire with no recognizable religious or political beliefs.
His girlfriend is in Tokyo.
OK
Hayzoos Kristo
Breaking News! This is want we no about the shooter thus far.....
Hmm we don't know anything but damnit we're going to speculate so we don't have to sit here and interview one more eye witness
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ZSMICHAELquote:
posted October 02, 2017 06:56 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
There are many types of insanity. There are experts in the area that have studied the likes of serial killers, thrill killers and the like. Eventually, there will be a better understanding of the factors involved. There are clinical psychologists that are experts in the field. The FBI has long had a behavioral science unit devoted to figuring out what motivates individuals such as this. It is very annoying to see media types speculating as to the cause of this behavior.
There are many varieties of "insanity", ranging from psychosis, to psychopathy. Again, I have stated earlier most people would never leave home if they knew what goes through the minds of other human beings. Fortunately, most people do not act upon these thoughts.
If you would ever talk to one of the FBI behavioral science people, you start doubting your own sanity.
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Since you asked, Dr. Reid Meloy, clinical psychologist is at the top of the field. I have corresponded with him and read his books. He knows what he is talking about when it comes to understanding violent behavior, and mass shootings. LINK:
http://www.specializedtraining...Presenter.aspx?ID=15