January 14, 2019, 04:50 PM
smschulzYou are bound to get fucked sooner or later.
So beware.....you've been warned.
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If you own a Ring doorbell camera system, we’ve got some bad news. The smart home company owned by Amazon, which the internet retail giant shelled out more than $1 billion to acquire, has apparently been violating its customers’ privacy in a pretty shocking way. A new report from The Intercept quotes unnamed sources who confirm that engineers and executives at Ring have “highly privileged access” to live customer camera feeds, utilizing both Ring’s doorbells as well as its in-home cameras.
All that’s apparently required to tap into the live feeds is a customer’s email address. Meaning the company has been so egregiously lax when it comes to security and privacy that even people outside the company could have potentially done this, using merely an email address to begin spying on customers, according to the report.
Within the company, a team that was supposed to have been focused on helping Ring get better at object recognition in videos caught customers in videos doing everything from kissing to firing guns and stealing. This news, we should add, also comes less than a month after Ring was in the news for a different potential privacy flap. As BGR reported, a new patent application has begun to spur fears that Amazon would use Ring as a tool for creepy surveillance.
That patent application envisions using a combination of doorbell cameras and facial recognition technology to build a system that could be used to match images of people who show up at your door to a “suspicious persons” database.
Regarding this new report, The Intercept also disclosed that a Ring R&D team in Ukraine could access a folder containing “every video created by every Ring camera around the world.” Additionally, as if that wasn’t bad enough, those employees could access a “corresponding database that linked each specific video file to corresponding specific Ring customers.”
It keeps getting worse from there. Those videos were also, you guessed it, unencrypted. Because, why else? Ring decided it would cost too much.
It brings to mind the similar “God-mode” map that revealed detailed passenger movements. This has also been something of an open secret within the company, with Intercept sources recalling how engineers sometimes teased each other about whom they brought home after dates. The implication was that they’d been spying on each other.
A company spokesman provided the kind of statement you’d expect, about how the company has no tolerance for employees crossing the privacy line. But Ring declined to respond directly to points raised in this new report. Also worth noting: “Neither Ring’s terms of service nor its privacy policy mention any manual video annotation being conducted by humans, nor does either document mention of the possibility that Ring staffers could access this video at all,” the Intercept piece concludes. “Even with suitably strong policies in place, the question of whether Ring owners should trust a company that ever considered the above permissible will remain an open one.”
quote:Originally posted by PowerSurge:
I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya. Hard to believe people would actually pay money for these types of products.
quote:Originally posted by 95flhr:
Agreed, no way am I ever going to install an internet device on or in my house.
quote:Originally posted by Georgeair:
As much as I don't want camera or Alexa INSIDE my house, I have almost zero concern with a view of my front walk streaming on the internet 24/7.
Yup, same here.quote:Originally posted by Gustofer:quote:Originally posted by Georgeair:
As much as I don't want camera or Alexa INSIDE my house, I have almost zero concern with a view of my front walk streaming on the internet 24/7.
This is where I am. Living in a rural area with VERY sparse law enforcement, I like being able to see who comes and goes. Plus, I'm away from home a lot and it's peace of mind to be able to see what's going on at any time.
I'd never have any of these devices indoors though.
quote:Originally posted by RHINOWSO:Yup, same here.quote:Originally posted by Gustofer:quote:Originally posted by Georgeair:
As much as I don't want camera or Alexa INSIDE my house, I have almost zero concern with a view of my front walk streaming on the internet 24/7.
This is where I am. Living in a rural area with VERY sparse law enforcement, I like being able to see who comes and goes. Plus, I'm away from home a lot and it's peace of mind to be able to see what's going on at any time.
I'd never have any of these devices indoors though.
quote:Originally posted by Rob Decker:quote:Originally posted by PowerSurge:
I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya. Hard to believe people would actually pay money for these types of products.
Amazingly, being able to pull up a camera feed of one's home and possessions provides peace of mind to those like me who travel frequently for work.
quote:Originally posted by trapper189:quote:Originally posted by Rob Decker:quote:Originally posted by PowerSurge:
I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya. Hard to believe people would actually pay money for these types of products.
Amazingly, being able to pull up a camera feed of one's home and possessions provides peace of mind to those like me who travel frequently for work.
Makes good browsing for the criminal element as well. They don't even have to leave the comfort of their home to case your home.
quote:Originally posted by Gustofer:quote:Originally posted by Georgeair:
As much as I don't want camera or Alexa INSIDE my house, I have almost zero concern with a view of my front walk streaming on the internet 24/7.
This is where I am. Living in a rural area with VERY sparse law enforcement, I like being able to see who comes and goes. Plus, I'm away from home a lot and it's peace of mind to be able to see what's going on at any time.
I'd never have any of these devices indoors though.