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Frangas non Flectes |
Thanks for the explanation, Rogue.  ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
SEAMEN, not sailors. SEAMEN crew man o' war on oceans 'round the globe. Sailors crew Auntie Twilly's skiff 'bout the harbour. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Heh. He said "seamen". | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
My cousin who was a career Navy enlisted man in nuclear subs (a petty officer later, of course) called himself a sailor. Is that a distinction they make? The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
A Seaman is an enlisted rate, E-3. I was one when I was a sailor. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Because she's utilizing gas turbines, it was either a single long island like our amphibious ships (designers felt would created more on-deck turbulence) or, two separate islands. Interestingly, at the base of both islands are the turbines.  The ships main electrical power plant is located above the waterline and away from the other engineering spaces, which would normally be protected deep within the ship's hull; check-out a detailed schematic. The design theory is conventionally powered carriers, need large spaces for fuel and exhaust/intake ducting which on a nuclear ship, would be allocated instead for increased aviation fuel and larger magazines. With the turbines high-up in the ship, that would reduce the amount of necessary duct work and allow for large magazines which could support operation tempos similar to US carriers. One of the short-comings of US amphibs is the small magazine sizes; it's ability to conduct offensive strikes in support of landings is limited thus, the lack of well-deck for America and Tripoli.This message has been edited. Last edited by: corsair, | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine |
And the U.S. still has 11 times as many carriers as the U.K., and that doesn't even count our assault ships which can launch aircraft. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jhe888: And the U.S. still has 11 times as many carriers as the U.K., and that doesn't even count our assault ships which can launch aircraft.[/QUOTE 'Merica! --------------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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The UK never really recovered from WWII like the US or USSR did. The US came out of that war an economic and military powerhouse, having overcome the Great Depression with MASSIVE defense spending and industrial output. The UK was crippled. They lost their empire, and couldn't afford the vast majority of their military people/equipment. I read books where they were still rationing meat into the 1950s. They can't afford to build their own indigenous tactical aircraft anymore (they bought into JSF/F-35, and were partners in the Panavia Tornado), and, IIRC, their nuclear missile subs use US warheads on US Trident missiles. They are still a great country and a great ally; they simply don't have the budget that we have in the US. They DO have Doctor Who while the Star Trek franchise went to crap, though, so they are still ahead of us in some vital areas (I'm not being sarcastic; I just really love Doctor Who). Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Well - they do have that $150 Billion / year NHS to pay for... Priorities. ------------------------------------------ Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
Hear, hear. A remarkable woman and leader, one of our country's staunchest and most consistent friends abroad. | |||
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Damn, I feel old. I remember when she took the throne.   | |||
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Low Speed, High Drag |
And when this Sailor was an E3 he was an Airman and my Dad who was a Sailor was a Fireman "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
Hmmm...(trying to be delicate) I remember reading about that in history class..... Congrats to the Royal Navy. I too remember when they de-commisioned the last carrier and I thought it was sad. Good to see they were just waiting on a better one! Of course we all know the power behind the Royal Navy is the Royal Marines...  | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
The Brits took that dive into full on socialism, replacing Churchill with Atlee before the rubble had quit bouncing in WWII. No doubt Great Britain had been extended to the utmost by the war, God bless them, but it took scarce resources made scarcer yet and a huge portion of their young men and women, and the survivors hobbled themselves with socialist nonsense, very costly. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Anybody else see the irony, Matey? Yargh! -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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| Purveyor of Death and Destruction  |
I wouldnt really call that a supercarrier. Its almost the same size as our Wasp class. | |||
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I think it would be just a little bit cooler if they had #4 Mk1 Enfield's. Tradition, Ya know. | |||
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No comparison. If anything she compares to the former Forrestal-class based upon measurements. Wasp-class 844' length 106' beam 41,000 tons 27' draught QE-class 920' length 240' beam at flight deck 70,000 tons 36' draught | |||
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Does anyone know why the Brits decided on a ski jump rather than a catapult? Costs maybe? It's not like they lack experience with aircraft carriers like the Chinese. The Royal Navy was operating catapult aircraft carriers with F4s until fairly recently. I think the only other navy besides the USN operating a catapult equipped aircraft carrier is the French. | |||
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