That's a tough situation—clearly, that dog was determined. I have two German Shepherds on an invisible fence, and once, my female went through it after another dog. A walker had allowed the dogs he was walking to venture quite far into my yard on retractable leashes, and my female reacted and went after the biggest dog. ACO was called and my Ring footage helped clear it up.

The attacking dog in the video just went after the dog right across the street, I have no problem with what the guy did.

I've had two exceptionally bad experiences with dog attacks, both involving pitbulls. I the first situation, I was at a residence in South-Central Los Angeles in my capacity as a court appointed private investigator. My client was facing criminal charges and the attorney on the matter needed photographs of his family's home. I went to the home, met the client's father and siblings, who were very cooperative and took photographs of the inside of the home, before going to a kitchen door and opening it to view/photograph the yard. I saw a large pitbull that appeared to be sleeping half way out of a dog house, with the back half of it's body and a heavy chain extending into the doghouse outside my view. I never exited the doorway, but the client's younger sister (maybe 10-12 years old) said, "That dog is vicious." Before I even had a chance to react, the dog woke up and charged me so fast that I couldn't even shut the door! The dog leapt up and grabbed the front collar of my shirt and (in as calm of a voice as I could muster) I repeatedly said, "Get him off! Get him off!!!!"

The girl and her sister (maybe a year older than her) both grabbed the dog by it's collar or leash (I still can't recall which), as I reached for my .45 auto, simultaneously praying that I wouldn't have to shoot the damn thing or that it wouldn't shift it's grip from my shirt to me! The girls actually succeeded in pulling the damn animal off and got safely got it outside. I couldn't believe it, but even my shirt (a nice Tommy Bahama BTW) wasn't harmed! I left the house feeling kinda giddy for not getting hurt or killing my client's dog and called his attorney to tell her about the incident.

It was a hell of an experience considering that in more than 30 years of LE prior to retiring and getting my PI license, I'd never come anywhere near this close to shooting someone's dog. I think that once I'd hit an attacking dog's nose with my heavy flashlight and that sent him running.

The other incident that I'd experienced occurred just before we moved from CA to AZ, when I took our greyhound on a hike in the Santa Monica Mountains. The trail was very well traveled by other hikers, many of whom had dogs and it was never a problem, but not this morning. As we walked up the trail, a young woman with a large pit-bull was approaching us from the other direction. About twenty yards from us, the dog charged and dragged the owner along like a ragdoll. I used my hiking stick to break off the dog's attack, but he'd caused a large gash on my greyhound's chest that would obviously need veterinary care. Although she was apologetic, I told the owner of the other dog to follow me back to the parking lot, while I called the park ranger and animal control to investigate/document the incident. As we walked to the parking lot, the young woman insisted that her dog had NEVER been aggressive previously, but after we reached our vehicles, he attacked another dog being walked by his owner(s). Fortunately, we were all able to interrupt that attack before any serious physical harm was done.

The woman was cooperative and after about 45 minutes, a park ranger had arrived, followed soon by a supervisor from animal control. They documented the attack (further attacks by the dog could result in it's being ordered destroyed), and I spoke for a bit with the later. He told me that previously his department had no problem getting volunteers to assist with caring for and facilitating adoptions of animals, but over the last four or five years that all changed with the large numbers of vicious pitbulls they had to deal with. Now there was a serious shortage of volunteers, specifically due to that problem.

After getting the owner's information and having the incident investigated/documented, I took my greyhound to the vet and she received stitches and other care that cost more than $1,000.00. Fortunately, the owner of the other dog paid for the care and never denied responsibility. Sadly, our greyhound became extremely defensive towards other dogs after this incident and though we could calm her down with enough time, her personality did suffer from the event. We moved to AZ about a month later, and never returned to the trail we'd enjoyed as much as five times a week previously.

ThankGod4Sig...

I am in Canal. What general part of C-Bus are you in?

I hope your dog recovers quickly and you as well if you have any mental anxiety over what you were forced to do.

My dog was also attacked several years ago. This was the largest of several bite wounds on her hind quarters and her ears:



Following the attack I purchased a S&W 442 specifically as a dog walking gun that I can slip into any pocket (gym shorts, cargo shorts, jeans, winter jacket, etc.). I posted about it on the forum at the time with most telling me just to carry my normal rig (Tier I appendix with a P365 and spare mag "sidecar" holder). The 442 is much more convenient and can be produced quickly with 1 hand when I have on multiple layers and while I am holding a leash.

My concern is not only dogs, by coyotes and other "animals" that could be rabid.

I hope your neighbors do not do anything stupid. Stay armed in case they try to exact vengeance on your pooch.

All the best,

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ThankGod4Sig...

I am in Canal. What general part of C-Bus are you in?

Far west side near Doctors West hospital.

Jake my dog is pretty much acting normal. His leg is kinda still messed up still. But the wound is healing.

I haven’t shot one but I’ve kicked multiple in my day, and kicked them hard. I spent my youth in various martial arts disciplines and know how to kick. Each damn time the owner is either nonexistent or running after it yelling at me “You didn’t have to kick me dog!!!!!” Lady your k9 is loose, no leash, and it’s trying to bite me or my k9 so you’re lucky I didn’t just draw my firearm and kill it. Use a fucking leash! The last several times have been with my GSD and Mal, both extensively trained in bite work and protection. They both ignored it or didn’t attack because of Schutzhund training because someone’s K9 always gets loose on the field so it’s not their first rodeo. They know I’m in charge and will give them the command when they can take over. People are idiots in general and IMO most people who have dogs shouldn’t even own one. They are incompetent trainers, completely incompetent. Most people that even use a leash their dog is pulling them around and they don’t even use the most basic training whatsoever. Every day “I’m sorry”, that’s all these owners ever do is apologize. Get your shit in order.

I skimmed through, mostly chicken scratch.

Dogs note other dogs more than people, I have a German Shepherd. Just cuz a dog barks isn’t really an attack. I take precautions.

ThankGod4Sig...

Glad Jake is getting better. Matilda, Mabel, Gunner, and Archer send all their best (my 4 dogs).

I know the area very well. I have worked over off of Roberts, Georgesville, and Grove City for 20+ years.

Most of our after-hours occupational injuries would use the emergency room at Doctors West. We also ordered in a lot of lunches from Grinders.

West Side Baby.

If you ever want to hook up at Vances or some other place to introduce ourselves and maybe grab a drink/meal, hit me up via e-mail.

Take care,

Years ago, my stepfather and mother lived off road a ways. He was going to the mailbox one day to retrieve the mail and the “new” neighbors sicced four, large dogs on him. He fought them off with his cane and they laughed at him and called him all sorts of foul things.

My stepfather was a truck driver who grew up quite rough around the edges. He used to bar fight for fun.

He hobbled back home, patched himself up, and drove up the dirt drive to their house. All the jobless wonders were still on the porch with the dogs.

Stepfather rolled down the window and told them “if that happens again, I’ll kill every dog here”. They laughed, flipped him off, and ignored him.

He drove to town to the gunshop and bought a SKS and a case of ammunition. He drove home and acted like nothing had happened.

Next day, he walks to the mailbox and those cretins said “GETIM!!” to the four dogs.

When the smoke cleared, all four dogs were dispatched with speed and efficiency. The cretin neighbors all screamed and ran indoors to call the Sheriff. My stepfather unloaded his rifle, lot a cigarette, and waited.

It took a bit for the deputy to arrive but he simply made a report and discovered one of the cretins had an outstanding felony warrant. Which, of course, led to the discovery of some stolen property, drugs, etc.

Needless to say, the cretins packed up shortly thereafter due to the “unhinged old bearded guy” that lived down the dirt road.

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I've gathered you're Kevin.

One of the neighbors assaulted you?

I'm thankful I haven't been under attack like that. I'm not sure how I'd respond once things calmed down.

I did have an event a while back that scared me, though -- more about the owner than the dog. I was walking my Lab (on leash) on our usual route around the neighborhood. The family at the other end of the street had two dogs -- one was a pit or bulldog or some such mix, and the other was a mutt of some sort. As Molly and I reached that end of the street, the front door on that family's house opened and both dogs came rushing right at us. I stepped in front of Molly -- out of instinct, I think -- and when I did that stupid keg-on-legs literally bounced off of my leg like the ball in a pinball machine.

The front door opened again, and I just knew the Mr of the house was coming for me. I was sure that I'd be accused of kicking the dog. He was a big ol' fella. He and I had never met, but I knew I didn't want to meet him right then. I took a deep breath, preparing for it, and getting ready to deliver as much of a chewing as I was certain to get. As soon as that door opened, y'all, both of those dogs flew back across the street just as quickly as they had come, ran up onto their porch and back into the house. The door shut and I was able to breathe again. It took a moment to determine that neither Molly nor I had taken any damage in the event, but in that moment I was ridiculously peeved at someone I'd never met.

They've moved away since then. I can't say I miss them.

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Originally posted by bozman:
ThankGod4Sig...

Glad Jake is getting better. Matilda, Mabel, Gunner, and Archer send all their best (my 4 dogs).

I know the area very well. I have worked over off of Roberts, Georgesville, and Grove City for 20+ years.

Most of our after-hours occupational injuries would use the emergency room at Doctors West. We also ordered in a lot of lunches from Grinders.

West Side Baby.

If you ever want to hook up at Vances or some other place to introduce ourselves and maybe grab a drink/meal, hit me up via e-mail.

Take care,

Email is in my profile..... anytime you wanna go shoot or whatever. Well Tuesday, Thurs- thru Saturdays I work but the other days I'm free

Several of you have messaged me about an update and more details on the neighbors being openly hostile towards me. So here go's.....


I've been in the area since 1999 and have known some of these people since then and others I've know of as neighbors but that's about it.

I'll type this out as things kinda transpired... I had to fire 6 rounds into the dog to get her to release from my dog and stop the attack. At least four rounds found the target. Since I watched the dog grab Jake my dog, and shook him violently I checked him out the best I could real quick. The owner of the dog seen in the video stop and left. I wasn't sure where he even went, One house full of neighbors who I've known since day one were on scene almost immediately, their son Christopher with my ok took my dog out of the area right away and back to my house that was just 2 doors down from the attack. I contacted the local Sheriff whom has a contract car dedicated to my township. I explained that I was attacked while walking my dog and shot the dog. They were going to send our cruiser. That's when the verbal heckling started.

The mom of the guy who helped me secure my dog started yelling that We can't believe you shot a dog. That family had a visitor who is the one that wanted to assault me, now remind you he had no ownership of the dog. He began pushing me several times and even escalated to "detaining" me unlawfully I contacted the sheriff again and asked for help on an emergency since I was assaulted and the ever growing crowd was becoming more hostile. Another neighbor threatened me with bodily harm, and I'll be over to kick your ass soon enough. None of the assaults or unlawful detainment rose to the level of using force against any of these people.

Once the Sheriff arrived and like it said in the report saw a large hostile crowd he had me move back to my home and secure my gun. I showed him the video and asked him to detain the one person who "detained" me and assaulted me, he saw that and was pissed that now he has to write paperwork on a 2nd incident and its almost 2pm and the shift ends at 3pm. That person was placed in handcuffs and in the back of the cruiser. The dog I shot was placed in a different neighbors car of the owners and taken to the vet to be put down. The dogs owner did not go with them. Oddly the body camera from the sheriff even has at least one of the deputies saying whose dog is it. And another one saying well its this guys but he doesn't seem to give a shit.

So knowing the process of catch and release for some stuff in the courts and quite frankly no injury were sustained and the guy didn't live locally I came back to the deputies and had him un-arrested. I know the guy will be out of jail before the paperwork is completed. Should I have proven a point, yeah I'm sure I should have. I wish I could have charged the other neighbor with menacing but I wasn't able to get my audio recording on my phone out in time, so its kinda a he said but NOBODY would have backed me up.

Shortly after all this was calmed down I took my dog to an emergency vet. Where you see the photos from the 1st post.

He is 99% better now. The skin is reforming over the wound and he's running and barking as usual.

I did go over to the township trustees meeting to explain the situation and show the video but wow those people are beyond idiots. FCSO PIO was good an explained yes you can have guns and fire guns within 1000ft because this is a self defense situation. But several others couldn't understand that even after seeing the video and wanted me arrested because I had a gun near a school. The deputies tried to explain the laws even stating that yes a dog can be a deadly weapon... Several people flat out didn't have a clue and only went by what was talked about on fecesbook about it. Even stating the type of gun I used for certain. It was one of those ultra powerful .357 magnums and he could have killed people several houses down. Which I laughed out loud and told the guy yeah you must be real important in your world. I never stated what type of gun I used and quite frankly I don't even think the deputies knew what it was even though it was sitting on my steps secured.

Sadly this is now the 2nd time I've had to use force on defending my dog. 6 1/2 years ago something kinda similar happened but the dog didn't get a chance to bite me or my dog. It was close But that dog was struck in the leg. Meanwhile the owners never tried to recall the dog or even come get the dog. The owner just stood there looking like a pig reading a watch.


As for the current dogs owner. He did show interest in if my dog was ok. We gave me a letter stating he was willing to pay for damaged to Jake. Just yesterday I messaged him several bills with a $1700 total. He showed no interest in repaying them. So I guess I'm off to small claims court now.



Here is Jake today in the snow.

fortunately a swift boot to the belly is all it took to get a neighbor's dog off of mine in my front yard one early morning. she "walks" her dogs off leash sometimes. when i let mine out the front door, it came running at him into my yard and attacked. thankful I was still waiting at the door.

some people suck.

Glad your dog is ok, good job all around.