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It's doubly a tragedy, because California is a beautiful state.

I have always said this myself. Whenever California comes up in a discussion usually as an example of how fucked up things are I always end it with the statement that it's a terrible shame because it is one of if not the most beautiful state in this country.

Much of the problem is most of the people who had a large hand in making it the cess pool it is now Pelosi, Newsome and countless others are well insulated from the shit they create. They don't see it or live in it on a daily basis. And they don't care that someone else has to. Minneapolis is not far behind.


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I wish them gone. They are bad, bad people.

That being said, I think it's really the populace who are to blame for the tragic condition. But for their beliefs, values and votes, all of this could have been avoided. Pelosi, et al, are just the tools of the populace. The sheep could have removed them long ago.




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It will get worse until the money and the electorate get tired of it and demand it change. They’ll get tired of it when their policy preferences have real consequences for them on an individual level. It’s now to the point where people are smashing windows of occupied cars to steal purses in the middle of the day in downtown Oakland.
 
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Scott Weiner is a sick individual.

His justification is to protect transwomen (bio males) who dress provocatively from being arrested for prostitution. So now, the cops are entirely hands off, causing prostitution, human trafficking and other misery to skyrocket.

SF voters are getting fed up, but unless they vote out these loonies, the problem will continue to get worse! Many residents acknowledge the misery, but don't recognize it's the policies of the elected officials that is causing it. And they'll never grant authority to LEO to clean up the mess.

Fester it and enjoy.

I was in Oakland last week for a quick meeting. Normally I would have gotten to the office early and stayed all day. This time I intentionally arrived at 11am and left at 2pm. Parked directly across from the office and got the hell out of Dodge. Oakland is just as bad as SF.


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It's doubly a tragedy, because California is a beautiful state.
I have always said this myself.
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The only thing wrong with California is the Politics, the economy, the taxes, fines and fees and the majority of the people living there.

Other than that, it's a great place.
 
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I grew up out there. Left in 85 when I joined the Navy. Thought I would always return because as my Dad always said, "this is God's country". It was beautiful in nearly every way.

As kids after church we would sometimes go to Chinatown for Sunday dinner. Never felt unsafe, dirty, scared, nothing. Just enjoyed downtown SF.

Now you couldn't pay me to go back and live there. My entire family has migrated elsewhere, namely Texas and Florida.

It is not a great place to live anymore. It used to be though.
 
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Lived in Foster City in the late 80's to 90, always liked the area, great state, lots to see and do, met my wife there, we spent a lot of time in the city, her brother had a business there on Grant between Post and Sutter.

It was like any major city, the bad stuff was semi contained in a few run down areas, it was safe to walk around Union Square, take the cable cars to the wharf. Brothers apartment was out on California past Nob Hill. We had a lot of fun and great times in the Bay area, used to bum his GS 400 and we'd ride all over the city on that bike.

Eventually we moved back east but still visited friends, you could see the deterioration over the years, miss the good times in California.
 
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I saw a clip of Gavin Newsom from 2008. He walked among the tents and declared he would solve the problems of drugs,hunger and homelessness within 10 years. What an incompetent loser. California seems to grow these types.
 
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As para said, it's a beautiful state. I sailed into various CA ports during the 80's and 90's and always enjoyed my time ashore. These days? Forget it. I'll never visit again.




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The thing that gets me is the pride flag on top of a few of the big buildings. They are proud of making the place a sewer.

So much potential to be a nice city. Flushed down the toilet.

Human trafficking is the most heinous thing I can imagine and struggle to get my head around how anyone forcing women and especially minors into sex slavery are allowed to exist on this planet. I just can't understand it. Execute on sight until there are no more of them. Pure evil.


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Much of the problem is most of the people who had a large hand in making it the cess pool it is now Pelosi, Newsome and countless others are well insulated from the shit they create.


Paul Pelosi might disagree.


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Much of the problem is most of the people who had a large hand in making it the cess pool it is now Pelosi, Newsome and countless others are well insulated from the shit they create. They don't see it or live in it on a daily basis. And they don't care that someone else has to. Minneapolis is not far behind.

...sortof.
Figures like Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Newsom, etc...had their time however, its the Board of Supervisors and their favorite civic advocacy groups who have entrenched themselves and made good governance a punch-line.
The SF Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing has a budget of over $1billion, yet there's been no progress and the issues continue to grow. Where'd all the money go? Like large corporate charities, they go to these advocacy groups as grants, which funds their payroll and benefits packages for the many over-qualified professionals that are their full-time employees.
 
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Much of the problem is most of the people who had a large hand in making it the cess pool it is now Pelosi, Newsome and countless others are well insulated from the shit they create. They don't see it or live in it on a daily basis. And they don't care that someone else has to. Minneapolis is not far behind.

...sortof.
Figures like Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Newsom, etc...had their time however, its the Board of Supervisors and their favorite civic advocacy groups who have entrenched themselves and made good governance a punch-line.
The SF Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing has a budget of over $1billion, yet there's been no progress and the issues continue to grow. Where'd all the money go? Like large corporate charities, they go to these advocacy groups as grants, which funds their payroll and benefits packages for the many over-qualified professionals that are their full-time employees.


The homeless industrial complex. They can’t afford to solve the problem and lose their 200k a year city job with gold plated benefits and pension.
 
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the once golden state has been turned into an uninhabital turd. A drive down the central valley is a real eye opener and the cities are becoming hellholes. Certainly there are beautiful spots along the coast but the dangerous and unhealthy surge continues to creep closer and closer to them.
 
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So much potential to be a nice city.



If only it was.


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I won't be surprised though if some leftist says, "This is why prostitution should be decriminalized!" And don't ask me what the basis for that argument is because I'm actually rational.



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I've said more that once if the comet hit Sacramento and removed all the politicians, the majority of voters in CA would only elect folks who are even worse. It is always fun to blame the politicians, and they are horrible, but the morons who continue to vote them in are the root problem.
 
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