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SCOTUS rules 7-2 that 40 Foot WWI Memorial cross can remain standing on public land
June 20, 2019, 02:42 PM
Balzé HalzéSCOTUS rules 7-2 that 40 Foot WWI Memorial cross can remain standing on public land
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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
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Justice Ginsburg filed a dissenting opinion, in which Justice Sotomayor joined.
Shocker.
Was it a shocker that Ginsburg and Gorsuch were the only two dissenting opinions on another recent supreme course case? Most of these supreme court decisions are not so cut and dry due to ideology it seems to me. Ideology seems to only come into play on a small percentage of the cases.
That being said, no it's not a shocker.
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June 20, 2019, 03:25 PM
Citadelquote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
If that 'ever' happens (and I wouldn't put it past them), its time for heads to be placed on pikes.
Fixed it for you.
June 20, 2019, 03:46 PM
Tubetonequote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
No, it isn't a waste, because now others will know the law and be more likely stop bothering other local governments over such nonsense.
It already was the law. The provocateurs will always probe and push. I suspect we'll see similar claims in the future.
To me, the real advantage is in how lower judges now know the current SC's 7-2 reasoning on the issue.
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June 20, 2019, 03:49 PM
Tubetonequote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Most of these supreme court decisions are not so cut and dry due to ideology it seems to me.
Is it ideology or judicial philosophy?
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June 20, 2019, 04:23 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by Tubetone:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Most of these supreme court decisions are not so cut and dry due to ideology it seems to me.
Is it ideology or judicial philosophy?
What I meant was that most of these decisions are decided according to judicial philosophy and not due to ideology.
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June 20, 2019, 05:19 PM
grumpy1Neil Gorsuch voice of reason though the easily offended won't be happy.
https://apnews.com/6157d29563584c35a2adf6a004f89117Gorsuch wrote that people offended by religious displays shouldn’t be able to sue over them.
Gorsuch wrote that in “a large and diverse country, offense can be easily found” and that the answer shouldn’t be a lawsuit. He pointed out that many Washington buildings including the Supreme Court include religious symbols in their decoration.
June 20, 2019, 06:20 PM
LeemurIt at all surprised by the two communist trash dissenters.
June 20, 2019, 07:04 PM
DennisMOn this court, 7-2 on ANY issue is a curb-stomping.
They didn't actually write "Go sit in the corner and color" to the aggrieved, but it's close.
June 20, 2019, 07:48 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
It's a memorial. It is/was not sanctioned, nor commissioned, nor ordered by any federal or state government. A stretch wider than East is from West to even try and touch the Establishment Clause.
And what a waste of the SCOTUS time and recourses.
Says this American, who also happens to be, a Jew.
No, it isn't a waste, because now others will know the law and be more likely stop bothering other local governments over such nonsense.
It's a great ruling. However, I'm much less optimistic than you that on other public Christian symbols other left-coasters won't file suits, activists judges will follow the SCOTUS ruling, the 9th circus will follow the SCOTUS ruling, and SCOTUS won't have to repeatedly remand bad rulings back to 9th circus.
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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. June 30, 2019, 11:05 PM
comet24Thank you, SCOTUS.
I know this cross well and have driven past it a few times over the years. My Grandparents and other relatives are buried in a cemetery may be a mile from it.
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July 01, 2019, 10:49 AM
tacfoleyquote:
Originally posted by Cookster:
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Another Jew here, who is not bothered by the cross that honors our fallen soldiers, and who appreciates the Supreme Court decision (Ginsberg and Sotomayor are idiots, objecting to a symbol that honors our war dead).
Of course, I would like to see a Star of David, as well, but the reality is that most of those soldiers were Christian, and if there is to be only one symbol, I have no problem at all with that symbol being the one that represents the overwhelming majority.
I am of the same tribe and agree.
Would this case have even been argued if the religious symbol concerned had been a crescent moon with a star inside of its arc?
Another non-dissenting Jew here. Every town and village here in yUK has its memorial crosses, and not one has anything other than just that, although no doubt some commemorated on them were not Christians. there are no Mogen Dovids to be seen anywhere.
Am I offended? Not a bit of it.
Those of us who served and died, died for an 'ideal' not a religion or branch thereof.