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West Virginia v. EPA
June 30, 2022, 09:31 AM
joel9507West Virginia v. EPA
quote:
Originally posted by BurtonRW:
WINNER!!!
This has massive potential for swamp-draining.

June 30, 2022, 09:34 AM
bozmanI am in the environmental biz. This is YUGE!
ATF... you seeing this?

The "Boz"
June 30, 2022, 09:35 AM
flashguyIt will be interesting to see how this works out.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth June 30, 2022, 09:40 AM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
^^^^^ Yes!!
The Supreme Court dealt a significant blow to the Biden administration’s climate change agenda,
And to administrative rules/law nationwide. This is yuge.
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"Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton.
June 30, 2022, 09:49 AM
nhtagmemberHopefully this will lead to the death and demise of the ATF thugs
About time that rule making authority was stripped from regulatory agencies. In my previous career I was in the environmental business as a hazwaz consultant. It was less about the environment and more about the money that could be squeezed out of people over trivial errors in documentation. The EPA never worked in good faith with a single client. If you actually managed to clean up a site, the EPA lost a revenue stream. They didn’t want that to happen.
This is such good news
June 30, 2022, 11:19 AM
sigalertAnd...in the media...
Cue the stock photos of belching smoke stacks blocking the sun.
“Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison
"Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson June 30, 2022, 11:34 AM
Il CattivoHoly cats.
- Trump is a damned liar - I'M NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET!!

- Vague language does not confer specific regulatory authority (already known, but man did that ever need to be reinforced - and enforced)
- If Congress had the opportunity to address the matter and passed, agencies cannot simply address the matter as they please
- "Transformative" policies have to be explicitly OK'd by Congress at one level or another
- Congress is going to actually have to take responsibility - if it can get the votes together - for whatever pie-in-the-sky bullshit the extremists in the electorate want
- God willing, this may be another nail (or two, I'll take as many as I can get) in the coffin of technocracy in the US
- Presidential elections could become
slightly less of a matter of life or death (but judidial appointments will always matter)
quote:
Originally posted by bozman:
ATF... you seeing this?
Ho, ho, ho, mofo!
June 30, 2022, 02:44 PM
Tn226Headline as reported by CNN
"How the Supreme Court ruling will gut the EPA's ability to fight the climate crisis"
OMG we're all gonna die!!!
A feckless organization of bureaucrats fighting a dubious crisis.
June 30, 2022, 02:52 PM
Balzé Halzé"Dubious" is being kind.
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June 30, 2022, 03:15 PM
sigalertI’m guessing student loan forgiveness is off the table?
“Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison
"Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson June 30, 2022, 06:00 PM
Flash-LBThis is also not too great for the IRS, something I'm all for.
Any Agency that's been making its own rules is now out of the rule making business.
June 30, 2022, 06:04 PM
darthfusterHopefully this will reverse the drift to bureaucratic tyranny.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier June 30, 2022, 07:04 PM
sigalertCan any of the legal eagles here explain the Constitutionality of federal agencies? How did we get here in the first place?
“Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison
"Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson June 30, 2022, 08:23 PM
clipper1sigalert
I just came across these articles yesterday. The schedule F article is a real eye opener and the other explains a lot about where it all started.
I never heard of this Brownstone Institute before but I did subscribe to their list.
https://brownstone.org/article...tions-of-schedule-f/https://brownstone.org/article...dministrative-state/sorry for just posting links but there was just too much to copy/paste
June 30, 2022, 08:45 PM
Rey HRHAs I heard, "Second amendment upheld, roe v wade overturned, people can pray in public, EPA constrained. Trump is having a great second term and he's not even president!"
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
June 30, 2022, 08:47 PM
vthokyPredictably, AOC is having a meltdown about the ruling.
Fox News link
God bless America. July 01, 2022, 02:10 AM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
Predictably, AOC is having a meltdown about the ruling.
Fox News link
Maybe she will emulate the tiger in the Black Sambo story.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth July 01, 2022, 06:45 AM
12131It appears that Elena Kagan is already competing with Kitanji Brown Jackson for the title of number one wacko in SCOTUS. Lol.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...-dissent-epa-ruling/Crackpot SCOTUS Justice Warns Eastern US Could be “Swallowed by the Ocean” in Minority Dissent to EPA RulingBy Jim Hoft
Published June 30, 2022 at 9:56pm
Just think — This lunatic is sitting on the highest court in the land.
On Thursday the U.S. Supreme Court announced its ruling in the West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency lawsuit. The Supreme Court cut back the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) authority to limit controls on climate change.
As reported earlier — In a 6-3 Ruling, the Court has decided that the Clean Air Act is no longer an appropriate vehicle for the EPA to curtail greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. The ruling sides with conservative lawmakers, states, and the fossil fuel industry to reduce the impact and authority of the EPA. The move is a win for the nation’s energy production, and limits the ability of Biden to stop or end fossil fuel production by the United States oil industry.
Thank you, President Trump, for your great additions to the Thomas Court!
Justice Elena Kagan, a committed leftist and crackpot, warned in her dissent that the Eastern United States could be “swallowed by the ocean” due to global warming.
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July 01, 2022, 07:06 AM
MikeinNCYeah they said the same thing in the 70s…Fla never sunk into the oceans.
"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein
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tleddyThe ruling (long) does not forbid regulating carbon emissions. It put the responsibility where it belongs - on the Congress!
Basically, it tells Congress t do the job it is elected to perform. Congress can specifically and in clear terms, delegate the responsibility to the EPA.
I took the time to read the entire opinion as well as Kagan's rebuttal. Brain fade, especially with Kagan.
No quarter
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