Naked man with AR kills 4, wounds 4 at Antioch Tennessee Waffle House Sunday afternoon.

When he attempted reloading a Customer jumped and disarmed him, sustaining 3rd degree burns from the hot barrel in the process.

Shooter fled on foot. Rain is hampering dogs and chopper in the


https://www.newschannel5.com/n...affle-house-shooting



UPDATE Just got notified shooter is in custody

That's good that they got his naked ass caught.

Another damn lunatic that didn't get stopped from having a gun by gov't ignoring him apparently.

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Originally posted by K0ZZZ:
That's good that they got his naked ass caught.

Another damn lunatic that didn't get stopped from having a gun by gov't ignoring him apparently.

Nor did he get stopped by a No Guns sign (if that store has a sign). The ones here do.

If there's any justice at all to be had in this world, the father of the shooter should be going to jail forever as an accomplice to four murders.

And again, the necessary stops were in the system, but the system was circumvented by someone who had no issue breaking the law. When will people get it through their heads that more laws (attacking the rights of innocent people) will accomplish nothing? And yes, that was a rhetorical question.

So the mentally ill spithead's father was a law abiding citizen, until he wasn't. Four people are dead because law enforcement got scammed.

We keep seeing this shit. When do we finally understand that assholes will never change, and their families are accomplices?

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Originally posted by Dresden:
...and their families are enablers?

Actually, I think the term you're looking for in this case is accomplices to a crime.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Dresden:
...and their families are enablers?

Actually, I think the term you're looking for in this case is accomplices to a crime.

In the instant case, most definitely:

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Reports stated authorities had previously seized his firearms. They were given to his father who acknowledged he gave them back to his son.

If there's a death related to the commission of a crime the law charges all criminal participants with murder, regardless of who or what precipitated the death, no? Well, IMO, in this case what the father did was at least as complicit as driving the get-away car in a burglary gone bad.

N.B.: IANAL, nor do I play one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I’ve not read everything about this...

Was the guy forbidden by law from possessing a firearm? Federally? Or was it a court order from another jurisdiction that forbade him?

Meaning...was an existing law broken by either giving him a gun or him possessing one?

If so...hang the dad.

Hold the father accountable and

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I’ve not read everything about this...

Was the guy forbidden by law from possessing a firearm? Federally? Or was it a court order from another jurisdiction that forbade him?

Meaning...was an existing law broken by either giving him a gun or him possessing one?

If so...hang the dad.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/brian...st2AWB1mR#.uj1zpBK4j

Due to his 2017 arrest, Illinois authorities, at the request of the FBI, confiscated his weapons and revoked a state identification card given to firearms owners, officials said. The Tazewell County Sheriff's Office said Sunday that its officers removed four guns from Reinking's home in August, but gave the weapons to Reinking's father, Jeffrey Reinking, an authorized gun owner, at the elder Reinking's request.

At some point, Reinking's father gave the weapons back to his son, including the AR-15 that police said was used in Sunday's attack.

A Tazewell County Sheriff report from Aug. 24, 2017, documented the confiscation of a Kimber 9mm handgun, a Bushmaster AR-15, a CZ-USA .22-caliber rifle, a Remington 710, and some ammunition.

"The weapons and ammo were released to Jeffrey Reinking, which holds a valid FOID [Firearm Owners Identification] card. Jeffrey was advised that he needed to keep the weapons secure and away from Travis," an officer noted in the report. "Jeffrey stated he would comply."

Calls to a phone number listed for a Jeffrey Reinking in Illinois went unanswered Sunday night and Monday morning.

Authorities said the weapon, which was heroically wrestled away from Travis Reinking by a Waffle House customer, was legally purchased in Illinois, although it is not clear whether it was legal for the suspect to possess the gun in Tennessee. Officials also discovered another rifle after raiding his apartment near Nashville Sunday.

On Monday, officials confirmed that Reinking's father was being investigated for possibly violating federal gun laws by giving the weapons back to his son.

"He should not have had guns in Tennessee," said Marcus Watson, acting special agent in charge with the ATF in Tennessee, explaining that, "if you transfer weapons knowingly to a person that is prohibited, that could potentially be a violation of federal law."

He added that "all federal departments are looking" at Jeff Reinking to see if he violated a federal crime.

^^^ Sounds like bullshit.

Fuck this Fucker and his dad with a barbed bat until they die from gangrene.

But we can’t just make up laws because of bureaucrats’ opinions.

The victims should be able to sue civilly however

It seems that as soon as this incident occurred that the perp's name was identified making me wonder how that information was so quickly known. Seems like someone at the Waffle House may have identified him by name?

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Originally posted by Steve Collins:
It seems that as soon as this incident occurred that the perp's name was identified making me wonder how that information was so quickly known. Seems like someone at the Waffle House may have identified him by name?

Nope, it's because he left his truck there and fled on foot.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
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Thank you. This happened about 30 miles from me so I had taken extra notice...

James Shaw Jr., The young man that wrestled the gun from the shooter when he stopped to reload is being given the full hero treatment here, as well he should. He was shot in the arm, a flesh wound, and received 3rd° burns from the barrel of the gun to his hands in the process. After disarming the shooter he was able to shove him outside, after which the shooter fled on foot, nude, to an apartment nearby where he had lived three months.

Just when I think we are doomed I see someone like this young man come along to give some hope. Below is cut and paste from WSMV Nashville news app. (Cant get link to work)

Hero Prevented Further Deaths At Waffle House. 
James Shaw Jr. Hailed A Hero
In the hours following the attack, Shaw began doing what he could to help the victims, including starting a GoFundMe account. 
His goal was to raise $15,000 and it's already hit $80,000. He said the money will go to help with funeral costs for the four killed and help pay medical bills for survivors.
Shaw also went to Vanderbilt University Medical Center to see one of those survivors and meet the families.


The shooters bond has been revoked after much public outcry, originally set at $2 million, requiring a measly $200,000 cash posting.

Tennessee law requires a cash bond set for everyone except in cases seeking the death penalty. The prosecutor said he simply needs more time to assemble his case so the death penalty wasn’t asked for.

“NO SHIRT – NO SHOES – NO SERVICE”.

Once again, proof that a sign will not deter criminal intent.

IL (just across the river from me) has the FOID card, he was originally from the Peoria area.

https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/FOID.aspx

When caught, he apparently had with him a .45 , which, the media, once again dutifully reported to be a "semi-automatic".
I want to know whose job it is at the AP or wherever to make sure that "semi-automatic" is always included in the copy.