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SCOTUS rules Texas can enforce its state immigration law.

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March 19, 2024, 04:35 PM
rduckwor
SCOTUS rules Texas can enforce its state immigration law.
At least for now. Apparently there is an appeal pending per FNC.

RMD




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March 19, 2024, 04:38 PM
erj_pilot
It got posted here, duck...

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...230005705#7230005705



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
March 19, 2024, 05:53 PM
onegeek
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
It got posted here, duck...

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...230005705#7230005705


That’s a thread titled Detroit. Why would anyone expect that thread to contain current information about Texas?!?
March 19, 2024, 06:52 PM
erj_pilot
Yeah...I get it. There has been much discussion about multiple posts of the same article lately. But I can see where the confusion entered into the scene...



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
March 19, 2024, 07:48 PM
nhtagmember
Bottom line is that Texas wins and the feds can stuff it
March 20, 2024, 12:25 AM
echidna
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Bottom line is that Texas wins and the feds can stuff it


That win lasted a whole hour....
March 20, 2024, 12:44 AM
erj_pilot
Explain??



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
March 20, 2024, 12:58 AM
12131
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Appeals court blocks Texas migrant law hours after Supreme Court lets it take effect

By Benjamin Wermund, Taylor Goldenstein,
March 19, 2024

This story was updated to reflect the 5th Circuit's late-night ruling on Tuesday.

A federal appeals court late Tuesday blocked an unprecedented Texas law that empowers state officials to arrest and deport migrants — several hours after the Supreme Court had allowed it to go into effect.

The high court said it could not rule on the Texas law without the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals making the first move. Hours later, the conservative-leaning appeals court scheduled impromptu oral arguments for Wednesday morning, set to take place via Zoom.

Around 10 p.m., a three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit issued a brief order that effectively blocks the law, with no explanation.

The judges on the panel are different from those who had briefly blocked the law earlier this month, but said it should be allowed to take effect while a larger court battle played out. Included on the latest panel is Andrew Oldham, former general counsel to Gov. Greg Abbott, who has championed the law, known as Senate Bill 4.

The ruling left the fate of the law uncertain once again, after a rollercoaster of court rulings in recent days. SB 4 was technically in place for a few minutes on Monday, and then again for close to nine hours on Tuesday. It’s unclear if the state arrested anyone in that time.

It is the latest in a rapidly developing court battle over the law, which marks a dramatic shift in immigration enforcement long left solely to the federal government. The law, known as Senate Bill 4, allows any law enforcement officer in Texas to arrest migrants suspected of entering the country illegally and empowers judges to order their removal.

The U.S. Department of Justice, El Paso County and civil and immigrant rights groups sued, arguing the law runs afoul of more than a century of court precedent on immigration powers and would interfere with the federal government's enforcement efforts.

Texas Republicans, who passed the law last fall, say it is necessary to protect the state against a rise of migrants seeking asylum in the U.S. and Mexican drug cartels. They say the state has to step in because the federal government is not doing enough to stop border crossings, which have hit new records under the Biden administration.

Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in the high court order Tuesday that the case is in a “very unusual procedural posture.” She noted the 5th Circuit had sped up consideration of the case, but has yet to issue a formal decision in the case. Arguments were scheduled before the appeals court in April.

“If a decision does not issue soon, the applicants may return to this Court,” Barrett wrote.


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March 20, 2024, 07:53 AM
rduckwor
Well, fuck. It was nice while it lasted.

RMD




TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…”
Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
March 20, 2024, 09:27 AM
erj_pilot




"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
March 20, 2024, 09:34 AM
nhtagmember
if these guys don't get their shit together soon, I hope the people just take over the job and force these bastards out of the way

at some point, enough is enough and I think we're really close to that point
March 20, 2024, 09:36 AM
smschulz
Do it anyway!
March 20, 2024, 09:43 AM
Muddflap
And all this time I thought the Supreme Court was the top dog.
March 20, 2024, 09:49 AM
RogueJSK
They are, but all the Supreme Court did was overrule the lower court's stay temporarily halting the Texas law while the appeal continues. They didn't rule on the law itself.

Then the Appeals Court again blocked enforcement of the law a few hours later, while they consider the appeal. Their new stay will also probably be appealed to the Supreme Court.

Then whenever the appeals court finally fully rules on the appeal, that appeal ruling will almost certainly then be appealed by the other side to the Supreme Court.

THEN the Supreme Court can make an actual ruling on the Texas law itself. So far, this has just been rulings on these administrative stays, because the Supreme Court doesn't have the actual case itself yet.
March 20, 2024, 10:04 AM
erj_pilot
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Do it anyway!
Fuckin' A!!! I like your style....



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
March 20, 2024, 10:06 AM
6guns
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Do it anyway!
Fuckin' A!!! I like your style....


Yep, dems do it all the time.




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March 20, 2024, 07:15 PM
Ozarkwoods
I say give the finger to appeals court and do it anyway! Who is going to enforce the appeals court order.


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March 20, 2024, 07:24 PM
tatortodd
The 5th Circuit has a been a bastion of sanity for 2A (e.g. AR-15 pistol braces) and conservatism (e.g. prevented Biden administration from punishing Texas Guardsmen who refused the COVID jab) the last few years. I'm surprised and disappointed by the 3-judge ruling, but given their track record I'm going to assume it's only temporary.

Also, I don't think it'd be wise for Abbott to say fuck 'em and do it anyway. Way too easy to turn a friendly court over to unfriendly.



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March 20, 2024, 07:30 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
I'm surprised and disappointed by the 3-judge ruling, but given their track record I'm going to assume it's only temporary...

It is. From the Chronicle article above,
quote:
Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in the high court order Tuesday that the case is in a “very unusual procedural posture.” She noted the 5th Circuit had sped up consideration of the case, but has yet to issue a formal decision in the case. Arguments were scheduled before the appeals court in April.

“If a decision does not issue soon, the applicants may return to this Court,” Barrett wrote.



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