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You've had some great answers thus far.

Summer Performance Run Flat Tires.
1) no good in witner
2) usuully incredible handling,
3) lower treadwear due to softer composition rubber,
4) a little harsher ride,
5) can not do flat repair if you get a nail


I've driven on various brands thereof and right now the top dog is the Michelin Pilot.

Check Tire Rack for the exact tires on your possibly new car and you can see what most people average mileage-wise on that exact tire.
 
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[quote]They are no bueno in temps below 40, so plan around that with second car or set of wheels. I don't mean just not great, I mean bad, and get exponentially worse once under 30.[/quote

^^^^^^ These are points to remember. Actually the wear curve increases as temps drop, and a polymer engineer I know told me that there is no sudden spike in the curve at 40 degrees, rather you might expect much faster wear at say 50 degrees than at 80, although you would have to do a lot of expensive testing to develop figures.

Personally I would not have run flats on any performance car, I don't know why for example, BMW puts them on. My CTS has the sport and handling package. The wheels are $$ pricey, so it did not seem a economic decision to buy an alternate set of wheels/tires for the cold days.

Letting the car set during colder (>40)days did not solve the problem. So I viewed the whole experience as an expensive learning experiment. I replaced them with Michelins which are plenty grippy, and probably better in the rain, if a bit noisy. It looks as though I will get about 20,000 out of them.

The Tire Rack guy I talked to said that it was a bad OEM decision to use Summer Max Tires on a daily driver, he says they are Track Day tires.
 
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Originally posted by oldRoger:
[quote]They are no bueno in temps below 40, so plan around that with second car or set of wheels. I don't mean just not great, I mean bad, and get exponentially worse once under 30.[/quote

^^^^^^ These are points to remember. Actually the wear curve increases as temps drop, and a polymer engineer I know told me that there is no sudden spike in the curve at 40 degrees, rather you might expect much faster wear at say 50 degrees than at 80, although you would have to do a lot of expensive testing to develop figures.

Personally I would not have run flats on any performance car, I don't know why for example, BMW puts them on. My CTS has the sport and handling package. The wheels are $$ pricey, so it did not seem a economic decision to buy an alternate set of wheels/tires for the cold days.

Letting the car set during colder (>40)days did not solve the problem. So I viewed the whole experience as an expensive learning experiment. I replaced them with Michelins which are plenty grippy, and probably better in the rain, if a bit noisy. It looks as though I will get about 20,000 out of them.

The Tire Rack guy I talked to said that it was a bad OEM decision to use Summer Max Tires on a daily driver, he says they are Track Day tires.



The reason why BMW has run flat summer tires on their cars with the "sports package" option, is they can thus eliminate providing a spare tire and the weight thereof.


I've been running run flat summer tires on my BMW's since 2002. They are utterly fantastic in summer in both rain and dry conditions - much better than any all-season.

In winter/snow/ice they are horrible. Hence I have an extra set of wheels with winter tires.
 
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For that car I'd go with the highest performance A/S tire I could get. The Michelin Pilot A/S noted earlier gave me great results on a G35.



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Posts: 12429 | Location: Madison, MS | Registered: December 10, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Unless you drive someplace where you can't get cell service or a tow truck in a reasonable amount of time, ditch the run flats. Noisy, harsher ride, degraded handling compared to the same tires that aren't run flats.

I prefer the Michelin Super Sports, but to each his own. The Summer performance tires do wear faster than other tires, especially if you are a spirited driver.
 
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