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October 11, 2019, 03:15 PM
corsair
Cruise schedule changes result in near riot and mutiny onboard
I get it, cruise travel removes the stress of planning and leaves all the work to the staff. Unfortunately, it looks like the this cruise turned-into a soup-sandwich. Cruising N.European waters in the Fall, that's already a recipe for disaster when it comes to weather.

Passengers on Norwegian Cruise Line Stage Revolt Over 'Ridiculous' Conditions, Canceled Stops
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For passengers aboard a Norwegian Cruise Line ship in Europe, the trip took a turn for the worse as soon as they stepped on the vessel — and only got worse from there.

While boarding for a two-week long voyage that was supposed to take them to the Netherlands and Iceland, among other stops, they were notified that their first port in Amsterdam was swapped with Normandy, France. However, upon arriving at their new destination, it was cancelled due to weather conditions.

“That was understandable,” Katasha Jones, who was on the ship with her boyfriend, Cody McNutt, tells PEOPLE. “We were upset that the itinerary had just changed twice, but that with weather, we’ll be understanding.”

Unfortunately, the cancellations didn’t stop there. About a week into their trip, after only making it to two of their planned ports, they were notified that the trip’s main attraction, Iceland, had been cancelled and replaced with more towns in Norway.

“Myself and my boyfriend were on this trip for Iceland, because that is quite a beautiful place to get to visit,” Jones, 24, explains to PEOPLE. “And in conversation with many other passengers, that was a similar sentiment from other people as well — that they there to go to Iceland. This is our Iceland trip. There was even a family on board that had Iceland family adventure T-shirts made up.” ( Big Grin t-shirts...lmao)

To make matters worse, the towns that replaced their Iceland ports were tourist towns that had already closed for the season, according to Jones, who said in one port the only open attraction was a local grocery store.

“There was a restaurant that opened and all it was able to serve was frozen hamburgers,” she reveals. “That’s all he had. There was nowhere to get a cup of coffee. The main feature that was open was the grocery store.”

“To say that that’s equivalent to Iceland is a pretty far stretch,” she adds.

In addition to the cancellations, conditions aboard the ship got worse and worse, with food going stale and multiple bathrooms failing to flush, Jones describes — echoing the many photos and videos shared by other passengers on social media.

inally, the cruise announced they would be docking in Greenock, Scotland, which had been another replacement port.

“We woke up early, excited to get to go to shore to Scotland and tried to make the best of it,” Jones says, but as they approached the dock, a delay was announced. They waited an hour, passengers flooding the main atrium to wait for their chance to leave the ship.

“We can see the port,” Jones recalls, when suddenly the captain announced that due to “high winds and rough weather conditions” they would not be docking in Scotland. Passengers were in disbelief as they could look out and see that “the water was flat and calm.”

That is when the chaos began.

“At that point, as soon as the announcement turned off, was when that room erupted and people just lost it,” Jones says. “It’s the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

Protests followed, with passengers demanding refunds or to return to London so that they could disembark. Jones and McNutt, 31, decided to leave the ship once they docked at their next stop of Belfast, Northern Ireland.

Since then, the cruise line has issued an apology, writing to PEOPLE in a statement, “Unfortunately, Norwegian Spirit’s itinerary was impacted by severe weather conditions. While nine ports of call were originally planned for the voyage, the revised itinerary allowed the ship to call on eight ports. We are very sorry for any inconvenience and disappointment our guests experienced. As such, we made the decision to offer a 25% future cruise credit.”

The note continues, “We always do our best to provide our guests with a truly enjoyable and memorable vacation. But our very first priority is to ensure their safety and the safety of our crew. We understand that it is disheartening when we are unable to call on ports that our guests have been looking forward to visiting. However, we do ask for our guests’ patience, cooperation and understanding that severe weather conditions are an act of God and cannot be controlled, influenced or remediated by the cruise line.”

When asked for comment, a spokesperson for Norwegian sent this same message to PEOPLE.

Jones said passengers were notified of the 25 percent discount on a future cruise as a remedy to their troubling experience, but that it “genuinely upset people more.”

“It sounds ridiculous coming out of my mouth,” she adds of recounting her experience aboard the ship. “And then I’m like, ‘Oh no, that’s really what happened.'”

October 11, 2019, 03:43 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Maybe they will book a Carribean cruise at the height of the Hurricane season. Spoiled people. I am pretty certain that rates are lower certain times of the year due to weather conditions. The North Atlantic in Fall. How about a Lake Superior cruise in late November to see where the Edmund Fitzgerald sunk. If the problem was due to mechanical issues that would be a different matter.
October 11, 2019, 03:50 PM
benny6
This is why I avoid cruises. Once you're on the boat, you can't just get off.

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October 11, 2019, 03:58 PM
arfmel
“It’s a lifestyle choice”
October 11, 2019, 04:08 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by benny6:
This is why I avoid cruises. Once you're on the boat, you can't just get off.

Tony.


If the cruise ship swapped the itinerary, it's because the weather was absolutely horrible and unsafe to travel to those ports. Cruise ships are notorious for pushing the limits for weather because of reactions like this. If they thought it was possible, they would've ran the ship there with people throwing up everywhere.

These same people would be the first complain if the ship did travel in horrible sea conditions. Unfortunately weather is one thing you cannot change.

I do feel the 25% discount was rather chintzy, and they should have offered the passengers a 50% discount (or more) in a refund, not off of a future cruise.
October 11, 2019, 05:58 PM
RHINOWSO
Yeah plenty of time on ships in the Navy, I have zero desire to do a cruise.

Flip side of this actual event, if they had gone to Iceland and had bad weather which led to injuries or deaths, and these pansy passengers would be complaining as well.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
October 11, 2019, 06:17 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by benny6:
This is why I avoid cruises. Once you're on the boat, you can't just get off.

Tony.


Take three thousand or more people and jam them inside a Vegas hotel. Offer them all the food and drink they want then lock the doors and seal all other exits. Now put over 1000 metric tons of fuel underneath and around the hotel. Isolate the hotel hundreds of miles away from any outside emergency services or outside help and pray the guys wearing the uniforms inside the hotel making less than a McDonald's employee and who don't speak very good English know what they're doing.

Now imagine a fire or power outage or extreme weather (the hotel is on a flexing foundation) or an outbreak...

You get the idea. Not a situation I'd ever put my daughter in.


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October 11, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sig2340
My father did a bunch of merchant ship trips up in those waters.

He loved the harsh sea conditions of the North Sea and the waters off Iceland, Norway, and Scotland.

Kept the U-boats from sinking his ship, again.

As for a cruise, not my idea of fun unless we were heading out to experience the harsh sea conditions.





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Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
October 11, 2019, 09:59 PM
Icabod
Saw an argument that the passengers shouldn’t complain as the ship visited almost the same number of ports.
Cruise lines offer excursions at various ports. Passengers reserve and pay for them before the cruise starts. Some are quite pricy.
From my read, none of these excursions were refunded and aren’t included in the 25% off offer.



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October 12, 2019, 01:03 AM
LS1 GTO
I cannot even count the number of times being "promised" we'd hit X-number of ports this cruise only to find out we just hit the 90 day at sea mark and the only land seen was the Straits of Malacca or Suez Canal.

Talk about being a bunch of pampered snowflakes who probably don't even know what time "eight-bells" is. SMH






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October 12, 2019, 07:57 AM
Sigmund
So is there a good time to take a cruise to Iceland? We've done river cruises and one to Antartica, but those were on smaller ships with 200 pax max. We're considering this Norway to Iceland cruise on a big (930 pax) ship for 2021:

https://www.vikingcruises.com/...andscapes/index.html

The schedule shows sailings in July and August only.
October 12, 2019, 09:06 AM
frayedends
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Maybe they will book a Carribean cruise at the height of the Hurricane season. Spoiled people. I am pretty certain that rates are lower certain times of the year due to weather conditions. The North Atlantic in Fall. How about a Lake Superior cruise in late November to see where the Edmund Fitzgerald sunk. If the problem was due to mechanical issues that would be a different matter.


I do Caribbean cruises during hurricane season. Much less risk. The ports are pretty much all the same. So it doesn’t matter if it’s diverted and the ship can easily avoid the storm. Only time I got screwed was when the departure port was closed

quote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
Saw an argument that the passengers shouldn’t complain as the ship visited almost the same number of ports.
Cruise lines offer excursions at various ports. Passengers reserve and pay for them before the cruise starts. Some are quite pricy.
From my read, none of these excursions were refunded and aren’t included in the 25% off offer.


This can’t be true. If booked through the cruise line it is refunded if the port changes always. If it is not booked through the cruise line most reputable companies refund if the ship doesn’t make port.




These go to eleven.
October 12, 2019, 09:08 AM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmund:
So is there a good time to take a cruise to Iceland?

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The schedule shows sailings in July and August only.








Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
October 12, 2019, 11:22 AM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
Take three thousand or more people and jam them inside a Vegas hotel. Offer them all the food and drink they want then lock the doors and seal all other exits. Now put over 1000 metric tons of fuel underneath and around the hotel. Isolate the hotel hundreds of miles away from any outside emergency services or outside help and pray the guys wearing the uniforms inside the hotel making less than a McDonald's employee and who don't speak very good English know what they're doing.

Now imagine a fire or power outage or extreme weather (the hotel is on a flexing foundation) or an outbreak...

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good description. You forgot to mention that some of the more popular cruises are filled with the people of Walmart. You can leave Walmart but you are stuck with these folks for the duration of the cruise. Not my idea of fun.
October 12, 2019, 12:49 PM
Sigmund
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmund:
So is there a good time to take a cruise to Iceland?

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The schedule shows sailings in July and August only.




Thank you, Dr Watson. So why would a presuamably reputable line like Norweigian schedule Iceland for the end of Sept/early Oct?

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They want to make money.
October 12, 2019, 01:13 PM
229DAK
quote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
From my read, none of these excursions were refunded and aren’t included in the 25% off offer.

From your read of what? The Yahoo article that didn't mention the subject of excursions whatsoever? If from another article concerning this incident, please post it to support your statement.

I totally agree with frayedends - I have cruised for over 20 years and never seen a cruise-booked excursion canceled that was not refunded. Now, if one books and pays for a third-party excursion, then one needs to deal with them separate from the cruise line.

Typically, your excursions (and other incidentals) are put on your running cruise bill. You review this at the end of your cruise. If an excursion that you didn't take/was canceled is still on your bill, have them take it off before you sign your bill.

Maybe these snowflakes need to actually read the fine print concerning their cruise. It's found in their cruise documents, you know.

I have cruised to Norway's North Cape twice and down to Antarctica twice. Been lucky so far. But I know and understand the risks. We are booked on an Iceland/Nordkapp trip this coming June.

I also don't cruise on mass-market cruise lines.

RHINOWSO:
"Flip side of this actual event, if they had gone to Iceland and had bad weather which led to injuries or deaths, these pansy passengers would be complaining SUING as well."

Fixed it for you.


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October 12, 2019, 01:51 PM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
Take three thousand or more people and jam them inside a Vegas hotel. Offer them all the food and drink they want then lock the doors and seal all other exits. Now put over 1000 metric tons of fuel underneath and around the hotel. Isolate the hotel hundreds of miles away from any outside emergency services or outside help and pray the guys wearing the uniforms inside the hotel making less than a McDonald's employee and who don't speak very good English know what they're doing.

Now imagine a fire or power outage or extreme weather (the hotel is on a flexing foundation) or an outbreak...

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good description. You forgot to mention that some of the more popular cruises are filled with the people of Walmart. You can leave Walmart but you are stuck with these folks for the duration of the cruise. Not my idea of fun.

Budget cruise lines, thus you're going to attract price-sensitive/value seeking travelers. Large families, once-in-a-lifetime vacationers, family with kids, raffle drawing winners from the local casino...basically a giant gaggle.

Best to travel with the smaller, upscale lines, you'll pay more but, less headaches, satisfying expectations and better service.
October 12, 2019, 01:55 PM
229DAK
quote:
Originally posted by corsair:
Best to travel with the smaller, upscale lines, you'll pay more but, less headaches, satisfying expectations and better service.

+1,000. Sing it, brother.


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October 12, 2019, 06:08 PM
corsair
Celebrity Cruises usually takes top prize for bad behavior by passengers but, NCL isn't immune. The bigger the ship, the greater chance of idiots:




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