This seems to me a conflict between private parties that should be resolved between themselves, or at most in civil court.
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL: [quote]Really, there isn't enough real crime out there for federal LE to waste their time on this nonsense. This is something the colleges should be handling on their own. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well if this is the case, I am sure they will just throw out the case. I ALWAYS use the above argument when I get pulled over for speeding.
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March 12, 2019, 05:03 PM
Ronin1069
My reaction to learning of this event:
William H. Macy’s reaction to learning they had been found out:
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March 12, 2019, 05:09 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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Here's Alan Dershowitz on this
Thanks for posting. I am glad he agrees with me. LOL
March 12, 2019, 05:09 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
The balls on these guys. I guess they thought nobody would check. Despite what some might say, USC has been a contender in college football. I cannot believe the other players did't notice. This would be a bigger story than RUDY. LOL
They didn't notice because he never actually joined the team. He only did on paper and then once accepted to the school would quit the team.
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March 12, 2019, 05:13 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by BBMW: This seems to me a conflict between private parties that should be resolved between themselves, or at most in civil court.
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL: [quote]Really, there isn't enough real crime out there for federal LE to waste their time on this nonsense. This is something the colleges should be handling on their own. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well if this is the case, I am sure they will just throw out the case. I ALWAYS use the above argument when I get pulled over for speeding.
Hmm, I would think defrauding the IRS for one thing would tend to attract the Dept of Justice's attention.
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March 12, 2019, 05:13 PM
Jim Shugart
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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Here's Alan Dershowitz on this
Thanks for posting. I am glad he agrees with me. LOL
At one time I disliked him because he was a lib. Now he seems to be kinda centrist or maybe just a little conservative. At least he's sensible and honest.
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March 12, 2019, 05:15 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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They didn't notice because he never actually joined the team. He only did on paper, and then once accepted to the school, he would quit the team.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I suppose, but word gets around. It is hard to keep those things secret. Kids talk. There is a lot to keep quiet. It is not like some little junior college in West Virginia.
March 12, 2019, 05:19 PM
craigcpa
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Originally posted by BBMW: Really, there isn't enough real crime out there for federal LE to waste their time on this nonsense. This is something the colleges should be handling on their own.
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Originally posted by FishOn: This shit has been going on for a long time. I am glad it is coming to the surface. I am also glad to see the FBI doing their job, as they should. The FBI should not be a partisan organization.
Really? Have you no understanding of fraud? Fraud affects more people than violent crime x 2. Don't you get that deserving people have been affected detrimentally and undeserving have prospered because of it?
Just because there isn't blood and guts don't think it isn't a crime deserved of investigation and prosecution.
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March 12, 2019, 05:20 PM
BBMW
The IRS is the government. You'd also be essentially stealing money.
All these people did was connive their way into having to pay the schools is question. The schools didn't really lose anything.
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by BBMW: This seems to me a conflict between private parties that should be resolved between themselves, or at most in civil court.
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL: [quote]Really, there isn't enough real crime out there for federal LE to waste their time on this nonsense. This is something the colleges should be handling on their own. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well if this is the case, I am sure they will just throw out the case. I ALWAYS use the above argument when I get pulled over for speeding.
Hmm, I would think defrauding the IRS for one thing would tend to attract the Dept of Justice's attention.
March 12, 2019, 05:22 PM
Ronin1069
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Really? Have you no understanding of fraud? Fraud affects more people than violent crime x 2. Don't you get that deserving people have been affected detrimentally and undeserving have prospered because of it?
Craig,
Maybe he does not get it, maybe that's why he had the observation that he did.
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March 12, 2019, 05:23 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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All these people did was connive their way into having to pay the schools is question. The schools didn't really lose anything.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just their credibility.
March 12, 2019, 05:29 PM
az4783054
Michael Moore will soon be scouting for actresses and actors for the movie deal...
Exploring another galaxy.
March 12, 2019, 05:30 PM
BBMW
Then the schools should kick the kids in question out.
I'm not saying what the did isn't wrong. What I am saying is that this isn't something the government needs to be crawling into.
Also, there's a lot of hypocrisy here. If daddy buys the school a building, his kid gets in, no crime committed. If daddy pays off a coach, daddy goes to jail (on the taxpayers' dime.) I think the coach should be fired, and the kid get kicked out (costing the taxpayers' nothing.) The government doesn't have to solve every problem.
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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All these people did was connive their way into having to pay the schools is question. The schools didn't really lose anything.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just their credibility.
March 12, 2019, 06:10 PM
P-220
Will anyone go to jail? Probably not.
Should they, hell yes.
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March 12, 2019, 06:17 PM
RHINOWSO
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Originally posted by BBMW: Then the schools should kick the kids in question out.
I'm not saying what the did isn't wrong. What I am saying is that this isn't something the government needs to be crawling into.
Also, there's a lot of hypocrisy here. If daddy buys the school a building, his kid gets in, no crime committed. If daddy pays off a coach, daddy goes to jail (on the taxpayers' dime.) I think the coach should be fired, and the kid get kicked out (costing the taxpayers' nothing.) The government doesn't have to solve every problem.
Schools give things to donors all the time, but that is under the assumption that the kid didn't cheat on the SAT/ACT, forge transcripts, fake sporting achievements, and bribe school officials.
Schools give preferential treatment to alumni often as well - but again, it assumes the kid can pass the scores to get in the door in the first place.
Then to hide it as 'charity' is tax evasion, plus a whopping dose of mail fraud.
I'm glad they are hammering these elites. They need to make some examples of the big fish.
March 12, 2019, 06:21 PM
darthfuster
All the while the elites accuse the rest of us of having undue privilege.
