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Age Quod Agis |
I'm ok with this. It's enough of a penalty to be serious to the right audience. It's merciful enough, especially considering her contrition, apology, and acceptance, to satisfy my desire for pain and retribution. Her offence was $15k to have her daughter's test scores improved. It wasn't having staged pictures taken to show that her kid did was involved in activities that are an absolute lie. It's wrong, but her daughter was completely ignorant of the activity, and didn't participate in the fraud. In her circumstances, it's not about the money. It's the realization that she is, and will always be, a federal felon, and a parent who deeply failed the essential duties of parenthood. That's some serious psychic damage, and goes to the essential core of her perception of herself. I see this as justice with mercy. Laughlin and her husband, on the other hand, need to fry, as do their crotch fruit. They paid $500k, and the kids participated in the fraud by posing for the fake pictures, and inventing things on their applications. Enjoy the slammer, bitches. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
Laughlin's crime was also more serious. She paid bribes in the hundreds of thousands of dollars and involved her children as active participants in the scam. And she hasn't admitted wrongdoing. She could get a much longer sentence. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Felicity Huffman requests to do her time at 'cushy' Dublin prison where she can sunbathe
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Well hell's bells, Loretta! Shit fire and save the matches. I'd like to go there for a 2-week vacation!! I need work on my pasty white-boy tan... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Lol, pay the collage get prison. Cross the border...get free collage ! | |||
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Bad dog! |
I'll post this in this thread because it is a related kind of corruption in the colleges and universities of America, which have increasingly become anti-American propaganda mills. Foreign countries, many of them openly hostile to the US, have donated a staggering 10 billion dollars to US colleges and universities in the past 7 years. Yes, well over a billion dollars a year! Here is a quote from the article: "“Here’s the key question we need to be answered for every transaction: What are these governments getting in return?” Mauro said. “Do we really believe they make these donations because they care so much about the wellbeing of American universities and colleges? Of course not.” “It’s been well-documented how China is funding universities to establish Confucius Institutes,” Mauro said. “The expressed purpose of these is to act as bases for ideological warfare by shaping the views of American students.” “We have to assume that the other governments hostile to the West see the same opportunities,” Mauro said." https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ersities-10-billion/ The multidimensional corruption of American colleges and universities is one of the biggest scandals of our times. We have wealthy parents falsifying the records of their children to buy admittance to the prestige universities; we have universities practicing racism by another name, "affirmative action," to discriminate against Asian and white students; we have universities that peddle socialism and communism while attacking the foundations of American democracy, (labelling the founders "racists," America as an imperial power, our history a shameful compilation of cruelties and injustices); and here we have the disclosure of these same universities accepting huge sums of money-- billions of dollars-- from China, Russia, and other entities hostile to America. I didn't even mention the scandal of colleges jacking up their costs because they know students will get government loans-- and remain in debt often for decades. American colleges and universities are their own swamp, and it is vast and putrid. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Savor the limelight |
If they weren't actually deducted on the donor's tax return, the IRS wouldn't care. | |||
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wishing we were congress |
https://www.foxnews.com/us/fif...the-stiffest-one-yet The former owner of a California vineyard was sentenced Friday to five months in federal prison for agreeing to pay a total of $300,000 in an effort to bribe his daughter’s way into the University of Southern California. Agustin Huneeus, 53, of San Francisco, became the fifth parent to be sentenced in the college admissions scandal. He pleaded guilty this past May in Boston federal court to a single count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud. His sentence also includes a $100,000 fine and 500 hours of community service. Prosecutors had pushed for 15 months, the longest term they have sought in the case, on the grounds that Huneeus was one of a few parents charged in the scandal who both cheated on their children's college entrance exams and paid bribes to get them admitted to elite universities as recruited athletes. | |||
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Ammoholic |
I don’t get it. I want my kids to do well, I really do. However, I want them to do it. We all have to make our own way, making our own mistakes, and hopefully learning from them. Having our wins, our losses, and our ties, but unless they are ours, what is the point? If we cheat to get our kids somewhere they may not belong, we do them a double disservice - first teaching them to cheat, and second putting them in a position where they may be over their depth and do poorly because they can’t hack it. The people who did this were sorely lacking in many ways. | |||
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Wait, what? |
You don’t get it because you have a functioning moral compass. You are honest with yourself and everyone else. These cretin know damn well that their larva didn’t deserve to be in these schools, but within a few years would gladly and proudly trumpet that said larva “went to Harvard/Yale/USC and was on the rowing team”. They may even be so arrogant to give themselves accolades like “ole mom/dad had to pull some strings”. Lying and status seeking are trademarks of hypocrites and they were clearly passing these traits in to their children. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Are you reading this Aunt Becky? I bet she is mortified right about now. She paid half a mil refused to accept responsibility of her wrong doing and treated her court appearances as if they were appearances at the Grammy's by glad handing and signing autographs. Which only pisses the prosecutors off more. Shits getting real now huh? I must admit I'm surprised how aggressively the government is going after these elites on this. But seeing a little justice doled out is a rarity these days and is nice to see regardless of what it is for. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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This whole thing is sort of restoring my faith in the rule of law, even if you have money and "are someone". I hope the judge throws the book at dear ole Lori!! | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
The Laughlin-Giannulli bints have been punted from USC. USA Today Link In the wake of the college admissions scandal, actress Lori Loughlin's daughters are no longer students at the University of Southern California. The USC Registrar said in a statement shared with USA TODAY that Olivia Jade and Isabella Rose Giannulli are not currently enrolled. The university was unable to provide additional information because of student privacy laws. This news comes about seven months after USC confirmed that the sisters still were enrolled. In a statement shared in March, the school said: "USC is conducting a case-by-case review for current students and graduates that may be connected to the scheme alleged by the government and will make informed decisions as those reviews are completed.” Loughlin and her husband, fashion designer Mossimo Giannulli, are accused of paying $500,000 to a sham nonprofit of admission scheme mastermind Rick Singer in what investigators dubbed the "Varsity Blues" scandal. The parents had their two daughters classified as crew recruits for the university, a move that U.S. District Judge Indira Talwani saw as especially reprehensible, because it took seats away from deserving students. The college admissions scam involving Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman shows how some rich families use a “side door” to game an already unfair education system. Actress Felicity Huffman, who was sentenced last month in the scandal, was ordered to spend 14 days in prison and pay a $30,000 fine. She pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud for paying $15,000 to have someone correct the SAT exam answers of her oldest daughter, Sophia. According to U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling, who spoke in a rare television interview this month, "If (Loughlin) is convicted, I don't think I'm giving away any state secrets by saying we would probably ask for a higher sentence for her than we did for Felicity Huffman," he said. "The longer the case goes, let's say she goes through to trial. If it's after trial, I think certainly we'd be asking for something substantially higher. If she resolved her case short of trial, something a little lower than that. It's tough to tell at this point." Loughlin has pleaded not guilty to fraud and money laundering charges and is preparing for trial. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Not necessarily. Nowhere does it say that. The article merely says that they're no longer students, and USC won't comment on why because of privacy laws. So yes, they could have been kicked out. Or they could have voluntarily withdrawn. That's actually quite likely, if they wanted to avoid further negative publicity, and not have to be seen around campus when everyone knows they're the "girls who were too dumb to get in, so their parents had to cheat them in". That's what the media does these days. They don't post complete, factual stories based on researched facts and evidence. They just throw out some vague statements, and then sit back and let everyone fill in all the gaps with their own preconceived notions and wishful thinking. They don't need to state that there's a connection between X and Y, especially when they don't have any actual proof, when they can just let people make their own assumptions. So they say that the girls are no longer enrolled, and drop a reference to USC mentioning 7 months ago that they would be reviewing enrollment statuses, and everyone who wants to see the girls get kicked out of college cheers because that means they were kicked out, right? But yet they never actually state that the girls were kicked out, because they don't have any actual evidence that they were kicked out. (And they won't, due to privacy laws.) | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
If I recall correctly, they tried to withdraw some time ago and were not permitted to do so pending USC's investigation. I.e., USC had frozen their registration status. They couldn't take classes, but they couldn't leave either. They are now out. They may have been permitted to withdraw or they may have been kicked, but given the prior attempt to withdraw I doubt this was voluntary.This message has been edited. Last edited by: ArtieS, "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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wishing we were congress |
https://www.latimes.com/califo...e-admissions-scandal Already charged with fraud and money laundering, 11 of the 15 parents who have maintained their innocence in a federal investigation of college admissions fraud were indicted Tuesday on new bribery charges, the U.S. attorney’s office in Boston said. The newly indicted parents — a group that includes actress Lori Loughlin and her husband, Mossimo Giannulli, a fashion designer — were charged in an indictment returned by a grand jury in Boston, alleging they conspired to commit federal program bribery to secure their children’s fraudulent admissions to USC. Prosecutors had warned parents last week they could face a bribery charge if they didn’t plead guilty by Monday to the fraud and money laundering conspiracy charges they already faced. Four parents — Douglas Hodge, the former chief executive of bond giant Pimco; Michelle Janavs, a Newport Coast philanthropist whose family invented the Hot Pocket; and Manuel Henriquez, a San Francisco Bay Area venture capitalist, and his wife, Elizabeth Henriquez — pleaded guilty Monday to conspiracy to commit fraud and money laundering, avoiding indictment on the bribery count. The federal program bribery charge can be lodged against anyone accused of bribing an employee or agent of an organization that receives $10,000 or more in funding from the federal government, and who obtains something valued at $5,000 or more in exchange. For parents charged with using an athletic recruitment scam offered by Newport Beach college consultant William “Rick” Singer, prosecutors have argued they conspired with Singer to bribe coaches into giving up admissions slots, which are property of the universities that employed them. Singer has admitted misrepresenting the children of his clients to elite universities as promising athletic recruits for sports they didn’t play competitively or at all. Virtually every university, public or private, receives more than the $10,000 in federal funding needed to trigger the bribery statute in research grants or financial aid. Prosecutors will likely say that admission to the elite schools to which Singer peddled access — Stanford, Georgetown, USC and UCLA, among others — exceeded $5,000 in value. The coaches or athletic officials charged in the scheme were also indicted Tuesday on new fraud conspiracy charges, the U.S. attorney’s office in Boston said. Three of them — Jorge Salcedo, the former UCLA men’s soccer coach, Donna Heinel, a former athletics administrator at USC and Gordon Ernst, the former tennis coach at Georgetown — were also charged with committing federal program bribery. | |||
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Non-Miscreant |
So much going on here, and I don't really understand it. First, the parents are probably mostly democrats. That part sort of moderates my sympathy. Guess we could say it makes me feel better, sort of. But I don't understand it all. Bribing someone to get into a state school? Around here, its almost automatic if you somehow managed to graduate from high school. Those kids must be really dumb! Also, why haven't the dean's of admissions and such not been charged? Who got all that bribe money besides the "arranger"? It'd be nice to see some overpaid educators going to the Federal pen, too. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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Ok, without knowing all the facts, you'd think these people would've have taken the temperature of the room and taken whatever deal they could get. Either their lawyers are going to take them to the cleaners in a loosing effort or, there's a belief that the case has a possibility of being dropped. Feds don't loose too many cases. | |||
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Ignored facts still exist |
Um, this is why they chose USC, obviously. . | |||
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USC is a private college. Loughlin and Giannulli are actually Trump supporters. Some state colleges involved in this scheme such as the University of Texas at Austin are very hard to get in. Some state colleges such as UCLA, UC Berkeley, etc are notoriously hard to get in. | |||
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