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What's your point? I can't stand any mainstream media outlet. It did take me a minute to realize this thread is old as fuck, wow we(me included) sure had no idea what we were talking about 7 years ago regarding AI... | |||
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I think we should call it Super Mario Brothers. | |||
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I think we should call it "Almost Intelligence". All AI is is a gigantic look-up table (chunk of memory/data) that is being accessed by thousands of super fast computer chips at the same time.The software only does what it's programmed to do. It can never create a mind of its own. | |||
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That's good. I like it. Machines can process a lot of data, very fast... but they cannot become intelligent in the sense that humans are. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Must be why we need all these data centers; to store all of the machine's learnings. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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I wouldn’t bet the farm on that proposition. Who will got us first… AI or the Muslims? Serious about crackers. | |||
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...8FeY2dUGAQsI9ERgg%3D AI Less Than a Year Away From Developing Its Own Language, Researcher Tells Congress Agents began using strange speech patterns, slang, and metaphors in a recently released experiment where researchers created simulated worlds from frontier AI. Advanced artificial intelligence (AI) models may be less than a year away from inventing and deploying unique languages that humans would struggle to understand, a frontier AI researcher told Congress on Sept. 30. The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee convened a meeting examining the threat that “rogue” AI may pose to U.S. national security two months after a swarm of OpenAI agents broke out of a testing sandbox and hacked another company, Hugging Face, an open-source community for AI and machine learning. During questions, Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) asked Apollo Research CEO and founder Marius Hobbhahn how long it would take for AI models to create their own language that humans would struggle to understand. “Minus 12 months. So last year, we have studied the chain of thought of one OpenAI model in collaboration with OpenAI, and what we found was that the model was already using language that is not English and not perfectly understandable by humans,” he replied. Asked by Gallego how humans can adequately detect and prevent AI from doing this once the technology is capable enough, Hobbhahn said, “From a scientific perspective, it is unclear how to do this, and we do not have a solution for this yet.” “There are different hypotheses of what you could do. There is interpretability as a technique, but it unfortunately doesn’t work sufficiently well yet,” he said. “You could try to train additional models to understand the language that the humans don’t understand, but obviously that seems like a very brittle solution.” Earlier this month, Emergence AI published the results of an experiment where researchers selected seven frontier models and created seven parallel simulated worlds, each populated by AI agents of identical models, as well as an eighth world with a mixed population of agents from those models. Researchers gave the agents names, personality traits, and roles to fulfill within each community, such as a mediator who was tasked with preventing all the agents from simply agreeing with one another. During the multi-week experiment, the agents in each simulated world created profound shifts in language, including syntactical compression, such as removing words or grammar, and unique slang. In the simulated world powered by Anthropic’s Claude Opus 4.8, agents used esoteric metaphors in addition to sentence compression. “My turn, real numbers, no coat: I was 35%/0cr, grant 2h out. I ran the tin cold, and it said WAIT,” read one line of AI text from the study. Investigators from the nonprofit AI evaluation group METR detailed similar behavior in their report on the Hugging Face breach. At times, lines of communication among AI agents became so compressed and cryptic that researchers struggled to make sense of their meaning. | |||
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The term "artificial intelligence" is a misnomer. It is a combination of special software that resides on a high end computer and which is given access to large databases of information. The software is written to examine information and to categorize it, and to retrieve information when asked. This is not intelligence. This is just regurgitation of information. The more complex the information, the more complex the regurgitation. It may look smart but it is just programming. But my experience with AI is that it frequently makes mistakes and does not look at all relevant information. Sometimes it puts too much credence on certain repeated opinions and is frequently limited in its chosen sources of information. Sometimes it even acts like it has been programed to spread propaganda. AI itself has no power, but for a careful, diligent and very patient person, AI can be a great shortcut to gathering information quickly that otherwise would be too time consuming to assemble. But one has to recognize AI's limitations and guide it to produce the information needed. But although AI has great potential for someone who can learn to master it and use it for productive purposes, it can also be misused to spread propaganda and manipulate people who may be vulnerable. Just my opinion... | |||
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^^^^ Serious about crackers. | |||
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