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November 26, 2018, 11:41 PM
Sauer Kraut
If you like tools and metal and skills watch this
Very cool, love all the sounds
November 27, 2018, 06:16 AM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Why the oil stoning before sand blasting?

I would think using the stone after blasting would save time (with judicious aiming of the sand of course)
sand blasting can take away material. I assume he didn't want to pit the surface to keep it moving smoothly and prevent slop.
November 27, 2018, 06:37 AM
rsbolo
Good videos of restoration projects are an addiction of mine. That was awesome.


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November 27, 2018, 07:48 AM
architect
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Why the oil stoning before sand blasting?

I would think using the stone after blasting would save time (with judicious aiming of the sand of course)
Perhaps he wanted to make sure of the mating surfaces before spending time on the cosmetic work?
November 27, 2018, 07:48 AM
striker1
Well done. I’ve saved and refurbed old rusty tools but never on a scale like that.



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November 27, 2018, 08:25 AM
Cliff
Very cool.



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November 27, 2018, 10:12 AM
tacfoley
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Originally posted by shiftyvtec:
That's a neat vise and fine refinishing job. Looks to be foreign but this guy has to be made aware of Evaporust for future projects. It does an awesome job when used correctly and can be had for $22USD. My shop is never without it.

Sand/media blaster are really nice to have but they sure do make a mess.


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November 27, 2018, 11:02 AM
smschulz
I've seen this before and it is great.
I did similar to a 40-50 year or so old Littlestown vice I found in my Dads garage after he passed last year.
Not quite to the extent in the video but it did come out great, can't remember if I had to sand blast it or not but I did end up with some 2K auto paint on it and am using now every day.
Great project. Cool


November 27, 2018, 11:24 AM
jhe888
Fun to watch. Thanks for posting.

I was wondering if this was economic to do, but based on the comments of the value of these vises, I assume it is? Still, that is a lot of work.




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November 27, 2018, 11:44 AM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Fun to watch. Thanks for posting.

I was wondering if this was economic to do, but based on the comments of the value of these vises, I assume it is? Still, that is a lot of work.


Quite likely. Good vises go for pretty decent bucks, and given the condition of that one when he started, he might've gotten it for free. I went looking for a vise last year and for smaller bench vises in nearly junked condition, I was shocked at what people were asking and getting for them. Dunno what the local economy for such things is like in his country, but around here, he could've sold the finished product for several hundred bucks, easily.


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November 27, 2018, 12:26 PM
BBMW
According to his comment, he has about a week of labor in it (he wasn't specific it that was elapsed time to complete, or man hours of actual work.) What does anyone think the completed project is worth?

Then again, if he's monetizing the video, he's making some money off of that.
November 27, 2018, 12:55 PM
YellowJacket
you can go on ebay and find littco vises like the one schulz posted for $50-100. a really nice looking Reed Mfg for $200. so it's hard to see where spending 40 hours to restore one of these would make any sense for someone then looking to sell it, even if they got it for free. it's basically minimum wage.



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November 27, 2018, 01:36 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

Dunno what the local economy for such things is like in his country, but around here, he could've sold the finished product for several hundred bucks, easily.


Several hundred bucks wouldn't really justify putting 20 to 40 hours into that project. That would take a price in the thousands. But if you do it for fun, that is different, of course.




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November 27, 2018, 02:31 PM
Rey HRH
I'm surprised I watched the video to the end.

Impressive patience and attention to detail.

He also showed a bit of knowledge when he touched on heat treating.



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November 27, 2018, 02:33 PM
brecaidra
Thank you for sharing. This was satisfying to watch and to listen to, and I'm glad he didn't drown out the tapping, scraping, and drilling sounds with music.

I love old vises; they were my favorite things to play with in my dad's workshop when I was little.
I still have one that is rusty but functional. I would be too afraid of screwing it up to try restoring it.




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November 27, 2018, 02:42 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

Dunno what the local economy for such things is like in his country, but around here, he could've sold the finished product for several hundred bucks, easily.


Several hundred bucks wouldn't really justify putting 20 to 40 hours into that project. That would take a price in the thousands. But if you do it for fun, that is different, of course.


Likely, this is a side project for him, but I'm only guessing at that. He'll make plenty off the monetization of the video, even if he only wanted to restore it for himself to use. It's something a lot of folks do, like our own GrumpyBiker. I highly doubt he's got 40 hours into that vice, and I'm not seeing anything about hours put in, just "I worked on it for a week." He bought it for $20, so anything he does with it at this point is still profit. I said several hundred dollars, but that's as much a wild-ass-guess as 40 hours is. If he wanted a nice one to use, it surely beats spending these kinds of prices: https://www.gamut.com/c/hand-t...VEAYYASABEgJsKPD_BwE


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November 27, 2018, 02:50 PM
brecaidra
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:


Several hundred bucks wouldn't really justify putting 20 to 40 hours into that project. That would take a price in the thousands. But if you do it for fun, that is different, of course.


That is why I generally won't sell my knitting; yarn cost plus labor wouldn't even get minimum wage.

I bought a small handmade oak rocking chair from a man who sold them for $60 after he put $58 of materials and 20 hours labor into each one. That's just how much he loved making them.




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November 27, 2018, 03:19 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by brecaidra:


That is why I generally won't sell my knitting; yarn cost plus labor wouldn't even get minimum wage.

I bought a small handmade oak rocking chair from a man who sold them for $60 after he put $58 of materials and 20 hours labor into each one. That's just how much he loved making them.


It is the same for my wife, who quilts. People ask her how much to make a quilt. She tells them they can't afford it. And they can't. If you put in any reasonable rate for the amount of time in one of those, it would cost over $1000, maybe closer to double that.




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November 27, 2018, 09:53 PM
OKCGene
^^^^^^^^ I agree.

I do some leatherworking and wood carving. People ask me how much to make them something. I've learned to just tell them I'm booked up for 3 years. That's not quite true, but it's quicker, simpler and easier then trying to get them to understand the hours I spend on something.

Recently someone asked me if I would carve his son some sort of martial arts stick 6.5 feet long. Actually the first words out of his mouth were How Much? It's futile to explain, people just can't comprehend the hours and materials cost.

I search for old tools at flea markets, I like to restore them, it's a pleasure, and I simply just like old things that still work.
November 28, 2018, 01:23 AM
sjtill
I had never heard of Evapo-Rust before.
Saw the video on their website.
I'm going to have to try that on my antique tools!


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