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rackrack
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Originally posted by sjtill:
For a relief charity, the Salvation Army gets a lot more done with a lot less money. Saw that in Biloxi after Katrina.

Looks like the Salvation Army cancelled also.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...3617c767b_story.html
 
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One specific: They sent in groups with $200 prepaid credit cards to hand out to victims. We passed the word, but they never showed. I followed up with them to find out that all had been handed out. Further followup revealed they never showed up to several locations. We pressed for info and found their accountability to be non-existent. They had several hundred thousand dollars worth of cards go "missing" for our small area, I didn't know of anyone that avtually got one of these cards. When I pressed their person in charge for names, she said there was nothing they could do and sometimes it happened, then disappeared. A real class act.
 
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The Red Cross is a piss poor disaster relief organization, and is generally a Washington DC protected con artist.

I've shared both of these before, but it's worth repeating:
  • Strike #1. In the aftermath of 9/11, my employer offered 3:1 matching on Red Cross donations (i.e. if I give $10 they'll add $30 to it). Myself and 10000+ coworkers donated. Then the news hit, the Red Cross fessed up that donations given expressly for 9/11 don't necessarily go to 9/11. In fact out of the $546 million donated only $154 million was distributed. My employer offered to refund our money.
  • Strike #2.In the aftermath of Hurricane Ike hitting Houston (eye over Houston and dirty edge was all the way to TX/LA state line), my church opened up its gymnasium to evacuees, and the Southern Baptist Convention Disaster Relief set-up its mobile kitchens in our parking lot. Between their mobile kitchen and our churches kitchen 230,000 hot meals were prepared, and our church members delivered them or served them. The news caught wind of it, and they set-up an interview. 10 minutes before the interview a Red Cross van pulls into our parking lot. Red Cross proceeds to intercept the news reporter, conduct the interview, and take 100% credit for the 230,000 hot meals. In reality, Red Cross provided $0, provided 0 supplies, cooked 0 meals, and delivered/served 0 meals. Southern Baptist Convention Disaster Relief doesn't do this for publicity, but at the same it chaffes my ass to no end how the Red Cross behaved.

    There is no 3rd strike in the TatorTodd system of mishandling disaster relief. They will never get another penny from me. In fact, I hope they're part of the swamp that Trump drains.


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    DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer.
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    shovelhead
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    Originally posted by gloucestermen:
    If I remember correctly my Dad said when he came home from WWII they were on the dock trying to sell coffee to the troops coming home!
    The Salvation Army was there as well, giving it away and thanking the troops. He never spoke well of the ARC for the rest of his life.


    And my dad said that the Red Cross was selling cigarettes marked as donated by the manufacturers. Today the Red Cross maintains that they were told to charge for these per the U.S. Secretary of War. Reasoning was that Allied troops had to pay and the U.S. troops getting them free caused friction between the forces. Of course all this is what the R.C. says, it would be nice for them to show the actual document ordering them to charge for donated items.

    I look at the American Red Cross the same way as I look at the United Way. A lot of six and seven figure (plus perks) people at the top while begging for money from people that can least afford it. I still remember the scandal where the national organization paying for the top man's girlfriend's apartment....nice.


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    There are several local charities and half way houses in our area that are much better than these national groups. Bunch of crooks the lot.


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    Posts: 5204 | Location: Lake of the Ozarks, MO. | Registered: September 05, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
    bettysnephew
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    I guess I am a villain then. I donate time but no money to ARC on a local Disaster Action Team that helps people out that have had home fires and recently with flooding in NE Iowa. I'm quite sure that the organization at the top is very unlike those of us on the ground that interact with victims. I suspect 95% of those of us doing the grunt work are doing it for the good of the folks we assist. Just stand back and take a look at big corporate America and you will see the business model of most "charities" because almost all of the people at the top are from that genre. Is ARC a good organization? Can't answer that in the greater sense. Does it help people out? I can only answer for our local chapter and say yes from my experience. I plan on continuing to help people in my community with our local chapter and not get into the political side of the organization.


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    Hangtime
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    Originally posted by darthfuster:
    I remember reading much of the money donated to the ARC for Katrina victims went to new office equipment for themselves.


    After 9/11 ARC and United Way among others were cast in a very poor light. So little they raised went back to those hurt by 9/11.

    Was a coming of age moment for me and opened my eyes as to how large organizations become so corrupt over time.
     
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    The Red Cross will NEVER see one cent from my pocket. About the only thing I'll donate is blood, and I really haven't done that for quite some time.

    My "go-to" charities.....
    Salvation Army (love the kettle drive during Christmas)
    Ronald McDonald House
    St. Jude (haven't donated to them yet, but considering it)


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  • Strike #2.In the aftermath of Hurricane Ike hitting Houston (eye over Houston and dirty edge was all the way to TX/LA state line), my church opened up its gymnasium to evacuees, and the Southern Baptist Convention Disaster Relief set-up its mobile kitchens in our parking lot. Between their mobile kitchen and our churches kitchen 230,000 hot meals were prepared, and our church members delivered them or served them. The news caught wind of it, and they set-up an interview. 10 minutes before the interview a Red Cross van pulls into our parking lot. Red Cross proceeds to intercept the news reporter, conduct the interview, and take 100% credit for the 230,000 hot meals. In reality, Red Cross provided $0, provided 0 supplies, cooked 0 meals, and delivered/served 0 meals. Southern Baptist Convention Disaster Relief doesn't do this for publicity, but at the same it chaffes my ass to no end how the Red Cross behaved.


    • Sounds like they're the FBI of charitable organization. The FBI has a reputation of showing up and taking credit for others' work.
     
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    rduckwor
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    Originally posted by bettysnephew:
    I guess I am a villain then. I donate time but no money to ARC on a local Disaster Action Team that helps people out that have had home fires and recently with flooding in NE Iowa. I'm quite sure that the organization at the top is very unlike those of us on the ground that interact with victims. I suspect 95% of those of us doing the grunt work are doing it for the good of the folks we assist. Just stand back and take a look at big corporate America and you will see the business model of most "charities" because almost all of the people at the top are from that genre. Is ARC a good organization? Can't answer that in the greater sense. Does it help people out? I can only answer for our local chapter and say yes from my experience. I plan on continuing to help people in my community with our local chapter and not get into the political side of the organization.


    No you're not a villain, you're a good person. However this is the ARC model, volunteers and low paid staffers that support the mission with spit and bailing wire while the big shots live well and take credit.

    No more for me.

    RMD



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