I saw the news story about closing farms a few days ago. Saw this thread, read through it, but couldn’t decide what to say. Lingchi was the Chinese form of torturous execution roughly translated as the “Death of a Thousand Cuts.” It seems modern Totalitarians are hell-bent on speeding up the process.

Time for the good Europeans, if there are enough left to do something about this bullshit. They need to make an example out of these "leaders."

Wonder if this ties in to China’s attempt to export food?

Wonder if this ties in to China’s attempt to export food?

I think that “2nd largest food exporter” must be on a per capita basis/in particular products.

For sheer tonnage, I dont see how they could match the grain exports of Canada, Russia, Ukraine, and India.

Here is an interesting read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...iculture-technology/

Netherlands has 10,700 farms, and they want to shut down 3,000. That's roughly 25%. Since they are Europe's largest meat exporter I'd be interested in learning if that is what they are targeting.

They can always buy from the Russians! Right? Right?

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Originally posted by architect:
I wonder how much of this is cover for a shrinking population (meaning not enough farmers, or young people entering the field)?

And, given that the atmosphere is already 78% Nitrogen, what is the purpose of restricting Nitrogen emissions?

The same purpose of calling carbon dioxide a pollution.

To be fair, I don't believe the concern is nitrogen in the atmosphere. It's nitrogen that's used in fertilizers which then runs off into streams and rivers. It is an actual pollutant, in that context.

So they are going to stop producing FOOD for the sake of the air.
Brilliant.
Starve to death now so in a thousand or so years theoretically they can breathe.

Nothing more than control, the justification is irrelevant.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Wonder if this ties in to China’s attempt to export food?

I think that “2nd largest food exporter” must be on a per capita basis/in particular products.

For sheer tonnage, I dont see how they could match the grain exports of Canada, Russia, Ukraine, and India.

It’s not tonnage or per capita, but rather based on monetary value.

Definitely this has nothing to do with anything, except control. Control the food, the media, and what ever else they can until they control the masses. Kill off 70% of the population, no problem for the WEF types.

England and New Zealand trying to go to digital currency only, then they can cut off food, fuel, travel to the conservatives and patriots. Strangle us as long as it takes.

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The more I watch what is happening the more I am convinced that Greens are being funded by enemies of the west (Russia, China, etc.) so that we destroy ourselves.

There is not a doubt in my mind that this is part of the process, it comes from the radical left or progressive end of the left, people like AOC, Talib et al...

Much of it funded by the one big time oligarch who wants to control all countries.. Soros

They are going Nitrogen Crazy in Canada too. Trudeau demands that farmers cut nitrogen fertilizer use by 30%.
https://www.realagriculture.co...by%2030%20per%20cent.

The Canadian Provincial governments are refusing to follow Trudeau's nitrogen reduction regulations.
https://www.dtnpf.com/agricult...duce-fertilizer-heat

I am going to buy more popcorn; this will be quite a show.

Trying to starve the US won’t end the way they want it too. They expect citizens to turn on one another. They’re hoping for a civil war, but playing with fire just might get them a revolutionary war instead.

Given what's going on in Ukraine some analysts are predicting food pressure for where that wheat goes. Mainly Africa and the middle east. No analyst I've read is predicting any kind of food pressure in the U.S.. And, Russian natural gas is used to make a lot of the fertilizer in the Ukraine. So, we're looking at less fertilizer in the market too.

Here's what I think is going on. Governments around the world are banging the drum on nitrogen. They are getting ahead of themselves because they need a win. They need to say they did something because they have failed miserably with CO2, and their radical base wants action. They already know with new innovations in agriculture yields are going to be increased using less water and fertilizer through the use of AI technology. Its incredible stuff. Farmers are set to use less fertilizer in the near future all on their own without government involvement. This is just government scrambling to get in on the act to say see we did this.

https://www.ibm.com/products/e...deb96fc&gclsrc=3p.ds

https://www.forbes.com/sites/l...021/?sh=65c20aea7f3b

https://www.sciencedaily.com/r.../12/211213111704.htm

https://www.agrinews-pubs.com/...-currently-using-ai/

My opinion for what it's worth is we really need to be afraid of all the antibiotics we are sending down stream from the tons of hand sanitizer every one is using.... (not kidding)

but then I suppose all the water, nitrogen and such is actually leaking in to outer space through the holes we've made in the atmosphere.... every time we send another rocket up we make another hole.....

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My opinion for what it's worth is we really need to be afraid of all the antibiotics we are sending down stream from the tons of hand sanitizer every one is using.... (not kidding)

I'm sorry, what? Hand sanitizers don't contain antibiotics.

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To be fair, I don't believe the concern is nitrogen in the atmosphere. It's nitrogen that's used in fertilizers which then runs off into streams and rivers. It is an actual pollutant, in that context.

No, the issue these enviro bullies are addressing is indeed air pollution.

Europe agricultural policies and subsidized production defy any logic. It’s the stuff that made Mr. Spock nightmares.

Most european farmers don’t own large ranches but very small parcels. From tiny to diminute farms. Yet they collect enough from subsidies to keep going.
Even if their products go entirely to waste or are of no value (Belgians have like 4 vines for undrinkable wine). Europe used to have 10 years worth of butter in frozen stock and got rid of some of it at special prices during xmas season every year.

Then there’s the regional, local, national laws that collide with the European ones and finally what the neighboring country, a hundred yards away, thinks, believes or wants and what they will do about it.

FUBAR doesn’t begin to describe it.

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These idiots have bigger challenges..