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The system admin has disabled Windows Defender for all computers on our network recently. I've had it running for years doing regular scans. Now that it is off guess who keeps getting malware? Why would this be done across a network? | ||
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| 7.62mm Crusader |
Glad I'm not the only one who liked Windows Defender. I think when 10 came out you got upgraded security. Defender still ran in the background but less noticable. A couple years back I was able to still use it if I wanted to scan but it was a bit different to get it to run. You'll get all kinds of advice on different programs to use but Microsoft always did a fine job for me. | |||
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It can interfere or slow down devices if the sysadmin started using another antivirus software. | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
That's the real question, did they install something else? If not, have you asked why? __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
I don't know what its status is now, but, last time I looked into it, though once deemed pretty good, Windows Defender was widely-regarded as not particularly effective. Besides: If y'all are getting regular malware issues in a business environment, you have bigger problems than Windows Defender not running, IMO. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Ask your admin. | |||
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Alea iacta est |
Windows Defender sometimes doesn’t play nice with other anti-malware and AV software. It also bogs down resources. If your admin has a good firewall, and good security, Windows Defender is not needed. The “lol” thread | |||
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| Something wild is loose  |
This. WD is very basic protection, and I would expect your network has something better. Running more than one malware protection program is a bad idea, for lots of reasons. A someone mentioned, if you're getting malware your business has other security problems than not using a modestly ineffective open-source throw-in from Microsoft. "And gentlemen in England now abed, shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's Day" | |||
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In general Windows Defender is actually a fairly decent anti-malware for individual computers. When they do they malware "shootouts" some times it comes in top 3, some times it doesn't. Symantec, Trend Micro, all the rest, they all do a great but not perfect job. The problem with Windows Defender is in a larger environment there's no centralized management, so the admins can't tell that all the signatures are updated, or flag those that aren't, get alerts if something is infected, etc. Like the others have said, the only reason to disable it is during the deployment of a corporate version with centralized management. | |||
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It was more than likely disabled because it’s a memory hog. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Memory is cheap. You can't keep all malware out with any one system. Multiple layers of defense are your friend. Firewall, mail server, and anti-virus. I use Windows Defender on most of our shop floor computers where people are running a small set of programs and aren't receiving email. Regular users have Windows Defender disabled and a more robust and centrally managed anti-virus running. ------------------------------ "They who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin "So this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala (Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith) | |||
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| Live long and prosper  |
Because it sucks? Likely your network defenses lie elsewhere. WD is better than nothing but not much else. If it was a product sold separatedly it Would most definitely be in my ignore / avoid list. Just my uneducated opinion. 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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| Master of one hand pistol shooting  |
Windows Defender has somehow volunteered to be secondary inn the background for me as I have Malwarebyted premium as #1. seems to work fine SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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| The success of a solution usually depends upon your point of view |
I have WD disabled because I run symantic end point protection and malwarebytes. They seem to play well together but WD doesn’t play well with others. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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Chip away the stone |
^^^In my experience, Malwarebytes operates alongside your anti-virus. I've used it in conjunction w/Symantec Endpoint Protection, IT Brain, McAfee, without issue. So, maybe when you install it but have only Windows Defender, Windows won't disable Windows Defender. When I install a 3rd party AV, Windows disables Windows defender. | |||
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| My only apparent accomplishment in life is being banned from an ancient forum |
Because it's the worst anti virus client on the market and he might have deployed something better. That's my first guess anyway. | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Without an antimalware program, how do you know you are getting malware? | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
That was always my experience.
I'm afraid I have bad news for you: Anti-Virus/-Worm/-Trojan/-Malware software isn't particularly good at defending against infection/compromise. This is a Dirty Little Secret that network security people have known for a long time, which the makers and sellers of the stuff don't want known. When I was still doing that job, I employed a four-prong defense:
You'll notice what came last, there. That's because, of the four measures I took, IME that was by far the least effective. Somebody will certainly point out I left "Keep software up-to-date." That's because that's often little more effective than anti-virus/-malware software. Take, for example, Adobe Flash. They cranked-out vulnerability-closing updates on essentially a weekly basis. And each release would address as many as dozens of newly-discovered holes. (We either did not install Flash or we removed it if it came pre-installed, unless the user could demonstrate a business need for it. [See item #2.]) That's not to say you shouldn't do it, but to say simply doing that won't necessary do a lot to keep you safe. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| Grandiosity is a sign of mental illness |
I believe you have missed the point. Reread the OP. Something is finding the malware. Perhaps his local admins are using something else. | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
 I really was just wondering what indications the OP had that he was getting malware. | |||
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