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Still finding my way |
The proper place for a democrat is to shut the fuck up and gratefully hold the flashlight for the conservative doing all the work. | |||
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I've yet to be in line behind someone using an EBT card that wasn't dressed better than I was.  _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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Having watched first hand the level of abuse and entitlement I guarantee this would save money if only because of one reason. Depending on the convenience of the pickup spot I suspect after a few months recipients will stop picking up their food because it is staples. Many don’t want staples they want money and convenience which is what the current plan provides. I am all for progress but this program is either designed to feed people or it designed to supplement their lifestyle as they see fit. As a taxpayer I am in the former camp. | |||
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In 1960 my dad was laid off and I can remember standing in line with him to get what they called at the time "surplus food." Powdered milk, powdered eggs, flour, cheese, and canned meat. I was only 6, but I can tell you that neither him or my mother were complaining. Somehow we made it until he got another job. It makes me angry when I see people with ACCESS cards buying junk food like chips and Little Debbie cakes instead of wholesome food. | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
I've been saying this for years. I remember when the mayor of NYC instituted a program whereby welfare recipients were expected to do some type of service. Took about 2 nanoseconds for the libtards to get a court order killing the program. Back to sitting on their asses waiting for cash. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Or how about those outstandingly delicious MRE our troops get to eat. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." Benjamin Franklin | |||
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| I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
You should've seen the comments section in the local liberal rag (Oregon, so it's expected). One idiot actually said it's too difficult for homeless people to cook so they require access to fast food....motherfugger's can camp professionally, but apparently can't build a campfire to keep their dumbasses from starving to death. Another woman said "poor people" simply don't know how to cook from scratch and shouldn't be burdened with having to learn. | |||
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| I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
https://www.pressherald.com/20...harges-back-in-jail/ $3.5 million in fraud, was giving $.50 on the dollar for food stamps/EBT cards. | |||
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| I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
The dumbest thing I've seen EBT related was when I saw a bum buy a flat of water with an EBT card and then proceeded to go into the parking lot and dump out the bottles to return them for the deposit to buy a 40 oz Steel Reserve. | |||
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The grocers association lobbyists will be railing against this hard. Being in the grocery food distribution business I work with chain buyers and store level managers everyday. The first of the month when EBT cards hit the mail boxes are big numbers for the grocery stores. The government will not be buying product through grocery stores to fill boxes but directly from the producers which is a boon for them. Hopefully all products to fill the boxes will be from American producers otherwise this could bite Trump in the ass. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
As I said in my OP, a big reason that the recipients, and their advocates, rail against President Trump’s plan is that it’s too hard to convert cans of corn and Spam to money for booze and crack. Serious about crackers | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
I saw a homeless van with a habachi grill bungee-corded to the passenger side door with the side mirrors as an attachment point last fall. There was a big umbrella opened above it, similarly fixed, keeping the pouring rain from dousing the coals. There was smoke pouring out of it, and now and again, a hand would reach out the window to open it and turn whatever was cooking in there. The police showed up and had him remove it, of course, but the ingenuity of it impressed me. It can be done. That guy made no excuses for himself. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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If President Trump ended world hunger, the Left would complain. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Exactly! But.... I thought we already had a discussion going on this topic: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/8390096734/p/5 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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It would save a fortune just to EFT the cash to their account. Save all the admin costs and all the enforcement cost... Better yet, do the food for half the benefit (call their bluff, most probably won't bother) and EFT the rest. This will cut 50% off the cash tab (save all enforcement cost) and we probably won;t distribute that much food. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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My church has done that twice that I remember--more than 100,000 meals each time, an all-day work affair with dozens of participants. I think each bag is supposed to make a soup that will feed 4 people. And I suspect that the starving people in Africa who receive those food packets are more than grateful. flashguyThis message has been edited. Last edited by: flashguy, Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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