Tubes would eliminate all that nonsense.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
The DC-10 (or maybe it was L-1011) had a galley on the lower deck in what I assume was the cargo area. About 20 years ago I was flying with our daughter (age 8 at the time) and the very nice cabin crew let us go down there (I think we took an alevator) to check out the "kitchen."

Not the DC-10, in general. Galleys are on the main deck (or were; there aren't any in passenger service now...nor L1011's for that matter). Some operators did use them, but it wasn't a standard feature on the DC-10. L-1011's did feature them on all aircraft, I believe.

In all the movies, such elevators exist, though.

The 747 has access to the engine and electronics bay through a location on board. In the DC-10 and subsequent, it's through the cockpit. (same for L-1011). Some of the early 747-200's had lower lobe galley areas.

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Originally posted by zoom6zoom:

First thing that came to my mind also!!

I couldn't afford it but I predict this will be a hit!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Tubes, man, tubes. Every passenger is loaded into their own tube, then the tubes are racked and stacked and off we go.

This has already been suggested by some "experts". The idea was you'd be loaded into tubes in the terminal, trucked out to the planes racked and stacked on carts, and loaded up through the bottom of the plane, similar to how sonobuoys are loaded. I remember reading this in AWS&T some years ago and thought to myself "no way in hell would I do this".

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Originally posted by flashguy:
On my last trip to Australia I almost booked a Business Class seat for the 16-hour flight--at the time I was considering it the round trip would have been just over $7000; however, the next day, when I had decided I could afford it, the price had bloomed to over $10,000 and that was more than the 3-week tour was costing, so I just suffered with coach (I did spring for "Comfort Coach", though, which had a little more space).

flashguy

When I arrived in Israel a few years back, the first call I made was to Delta. I told the woman on the other end that I didn't care how much it cost, the flight over was so painful that I wanted an upgrade to business class on the way home. She said "no problem sir, that'll be an extra $5000". Apparently I did care how much it cost.

There aren't many places that I haven't been to overseas that I'd like to see before I croak, but the thought of flying to them coach has prevented me from doing it. If I can find something business/first class that is reasonable I'll do it. Otherwise, I'll stay home. There's not a chance in hell I'll ever make another 12+ hour flight in coach. In fact, I don't even make 2+ hour flights in coach anymore. I just refuse to do it. I refuse to be that uncomfortable for that amount of time and that amount of money.

Airlines have become Greyhound buses with wings anymore and I won't endure it.

I like the idea of these sleeping areas. Hopefully the cost will be reasonable.

It's kind of ironic that the best seats in the house don't grant rest and don't recline. Great view (in daylight), but first to the scene of the wreck, and there's no upgrading to a better seat or berth.

I spend a big chunk of the year riding around the globe (all the way around, sometimes), often in nothing better than economy when traveling. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had a first class seat...and I drive the damn thing.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
The DC-10 (or maybe it was L-1011) had a galley on the lower deck in what I assume was the cargo area.

It was the L-1011, or the "Tritanic" as it was called by the employees. It was still in the fleet when I was a new-hire, and I heard stories of the lower galley and how it was sometimes used for things other than food preparation. Some of the stories might have even been true.

Following the Eastern crash, there were reports of the FE's appearance in the forward lower to FA's to warn of impending problems. Rumors of galley pieces or carts that got recirculated, brought the spirit of the flight engineer with it. I knew a retired military, career delta captain who swore it was true.

What in the world are you talking about? You're bringing ghost stories into this thread?

An Eastern Airlines L-1011, Flight 401, crashed in the Everglades. Some components from that aircraft, including some galley carts, were put back in service, reportedly. Numerous reports came back from flight attendants and several pilots about an appearance of the deceased flight engineer, warning of problems on the flight. This lore persisted for many years.

Many of the appearances were reported in the lower forward galley.

401 crashed when all three of the crew became preoccupied troubleshooting a landing gear indication problem. The captain and first officer were busy with light bulbs in the gear indicators, and the flight engineer had gone below into the electronics space when the autopilot disconnected and the aircraft began a drift down, and crashed in the Everglades.

The relevant part is the lower forward galley. Very few aircraft had them, and it's not something folks would be familiar with today. Access to the lower spaces is seen frequently in the movies, but such access generally doesn't exist. The L-1011 was one aircraft in which it did.

Don't post fantasies in this forum. I do not care about "the lore". Ghost stories are childish nonsense and I want members to refrain from this kind of grade school sillyness.

Yes, I know- you're simply repeating the tale. Got it. Not interested.