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Attn business owners: Federal Mandatory Ownership Reporting?

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December 25, 2023, 10:02 PM
flesheatingvirus
Attn business owners: Federal Mandatory Ownership Reporting?
Did anyone else who owns a business get one of these? A $78 filing fee is BULLSHIT. It's not as if the feds don't take enough of our money already.


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December 25, 2023, 10:19 PM
BlackTalonJHP
I was under the impression there was no fee for the BOI filing. Are you sure the letter isn't from a 3rd party trying to make it look like an official government letter and offering to file it on your behalf for a fee?
December 25, 2023, 10:21 PM
flesheatingvirus
It seems legit to me; even the QR code and provided web address link to the same form location, which seems to be the official one.




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-- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --
December 25, 2023, 10:23 PM
220-9er
Never heard of that.
I’d suspect it’s a scam letter.
The form is only new companies formed in 2024 and later to ID the actual owners and doesn’t have a fee.
The email address on that form posted isn’t a .gov address.


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December 25, 2023, 10:25 PM
911Boss
From the Fincen.gov/boi website (which is the LEGIT website):

“ Alert: FinCEN has been notified of recent fraudulent attempts to solicit information from individuals and entities who may be subject to reporting requirements under the Corporate Transparency Act. The fraudulent correspondence may be titled "Important Compliance Notice" and asks the recipient to click on a URL or to scan a QR code. Those e-mails or letters are fraudulent. FinCEN does not send unsolicited requests. Please do not respond to these fraudulent messages, or click on any links or scan any QR codes within them.”


What you posted is not kosher, it is not a .gov web address.

If you go to the root “deptofbusiness.us” web address it gives you official looking but BS info. The site redirects to tprepamerica.us web address, and shows a logo that says “Business Filing Division a Dept of Taxprep America”


Definitely NOT a legit government website.

Also from the real website, you cannot even file until January.






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


December 25, 2023, 10:34 PM
12131
Send the letter back with "FUCK.YOU." written over it.


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December 25, 2023, 10:35 PM
BlackTalonJHP
That letter and URL looks fake. I hope the scammers didn't get any money from you.
December 25, 2023, 10:52 PM
braillediver
BBB Scam Tracker says Phishing Scam.

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December 25, 2023, 11:09 PM
car541
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
It seems legit to me; even the QR code and provided web address link to the same form location, which seems to be the official one.



Scam

Note the email address of "deptofbusiness.us"


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December 26, 2023, 05:25 AM
jcsabolt2
It's fake, look at the web address it's a ".us" not ".gov". All U.S. government web addresses are .GOV.


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December 26, 2023, 08:28 AM
r0gue
Dot "us" is not gov. Dot gov is gov. Sometimes you'll see .us.gov. But the top level .us could be registered by any scammer, and in this case, was.




December 26, 2023, 10:47 AM
DennisM
There is no government agency with that name. At all.

Somewhere on there is a note in very small print that says "we aren't a government agency" but few people actually read it.

It's 100% a scam, similar to the "Business Owner: Notice, you can be fined a trillion dollars if you don't have these posters" mailings.
December 26, 2023, 11:08 AM
flesheatingvirus
Assholes. Good to know. At least I was skeptical; they put some effort into this one.


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-- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --
December 26, 2023, 11:34 AM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
It seems legit to me; ...
Wouldn't be a very good scam if it didn't have the appearance of legitimacy, would it? Wink

One must be exceedingly careful these days. I'm a retired I.T. guy with many years experience and even I am sometimes nearly fooled by some of the stuff that arrives in my inbox.
quote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
Dot "us" is not gov. Dot gov is gov. ... But the top level .us could be registered by any scammer, and in this case, was.
This ^^^^^
quote:
Originally posted by DennisM:
There is no government agency with that name. At all.
Yeah, "Department of Records Management" and "Department of Business" are kind of dead give-aways.



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December 26, 2023, 11:43 AM
flesheatingvirus
Kicking myself for not seeing it so easily now. It probably didn't help that it came at the worst time- sick for 2 days with almost no sleep. These people should be put against a wall and shot.


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-- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --
December 26, 2023, 11:50 AM
HRK
This is common with many state and federal registration requirements. There are companies that get the list of active businesses in the state, then send an official looking notice with a fee that they can "register" your business.

Got them forever on my company, and at first you'd think it was an official government form but like with the .us address it's clearly not an official federal form.
December 26, 2023, 11:53 AM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
These people maggots should be put against a wall and shot.

Yeah, that's how I feel about it.


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December 26, 2023, 01:01 PM
nhtagmember
agreed

you only need to do this once or twice, and scammers will get the idea

it should be national policy to track down scammers and make their remaining lives excruciatingly painful

again, do this once or twice and the scammers will go away
December 26, 2023, 01:57 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:

Send the letter back with "FUCK.YOU." written over it.
While I did not use your exact terminology, I have replied to a few of these scams, inviting them to sit on a cactus.



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December 26, 2023, 02:45 PM
dave7378
I have never received one of those.


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