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January 03, 2025, 08:52 AM
Timdogg6
Discussion of the New Orleans terror attack is now open
Question, on the LV incident. They have video from when the truck stopped until it blew up.
If we believe he drove the car himself and died of a gunshot prior to the explosion, where is the bullet. The Cyber truck isn't going to contain that. Why don't we see it going out the roof or window.
If he holds it to his head and waits for the boom to help him pull the trigger i guess that would answer it but outside of that, i got no idea.


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January 03, 2025, 09:14 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:

It could be just a simple suicide. Who knows?
But if so, why rent a Tesla Cybertruck?


Because he always wanted to drive one? People need to stop trying to find reason in every little thing that happens.

quote:
Originally posted by Timdogg6:
Question, on the LV incident. They have video from when the truck stopped until it blew up.
If we believe he drove the car himself and died of a gunshot prior to the explosion, where is the bullet. The Cyber truck isn't going to contain that. Why don't we see it going out the roof or window.
If he holds it to his head and waits for the boom to help him pull the trigger i guess that would answer it but outside of that, i got no idea.


If the truck were full of gasoline fumes, discharging the firearm would ignite the fumes and blow up the vehicle.


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January 03, 2025, 09:24 AM
83v45magna
Maybe he went to rent a truck and that tesla was all they had.

Sounds like he wanted some attention for his departure. I am thankful it was not one of those angry, selfish, 'take as many with me as I can' type of suicides like mister 72 raisins in New Orleans.
January 03, 2025, 09:30 AM
Dwill104
Maybe he assumed that the lithium battery catching fire would be more devastating.
January 03, 2025, 10:21 AM
AITG
One thing lacking in all this theorizing is a positive identification of the body.
January 03, 2025, 10:44 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by AITG:
One thing lacking in all this theorizing is a positive identification of the body.

Unless, of course, if we believe that we must not believe any official statement about the question once it’s announced. Unless it matches our preconceived notions. Also of course.

The great thing about believing only what we want to believe and disregarding the rest is that—unlike the other common kind—the pleasures of mental masturbation never end.




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January 03, 2025, 11:21 AM
justjoe
quote:
sigfreund
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posted January 03, 2025 10:44 AM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by AITG:
One thing lacking in all this theorizing is a positive identification of the body.

Unless, of course, if we believe that we must not believe any official statement about the question once it’s announced. Unless it matches our preconceived notions. Also of course.

The great thing about believing only what we want to believe and disregarding the rest is that—unlike the other common kind—the pleasures of mental masturbation never end.



What exactly are you talking about? The body was burned beyond recognition. So there is as yet no positive identification. That is a fact. It is not "believing what you want to believe."

"mental masturbation?" Roll Eyes


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January 03, 2025, 11:34 AM
ElToro
LV PD says body and gun were burned almost beyond recognition but his military ID and passport survived just fine ? That’s weird

Also allegedly he was a trump fan but his wife was a Bernie fan and just had a baby and divorced him 2 weeks ago. That was a 3rd divorce. So. Suicide gets no bennies for the wife. And 20 years gets you a pension so he was liked FU! I’m out. Not saying it’s right but I understand…

He may have just had the final straw snap for him. And it’s absolute coincidence he chose 1/1 and that happened to be same day as NOLA attack.
January 03, 2025, 11:46 AM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:
LV PD says body and gun were burned almost beyond recognition but his military ID and passport survived just fine ? That’s weird

Not really.
It's not unusual for explosions to toss things out to all corners of the compass. While entertainment has convinced people that explosions destroy EVERYTHING, the reality is there's quite a bit of items that get ejected from the center.

quote:
Also allegedly he was a trump fan but his wife was a Bernie fan and just had a baby and divorced him 2 weeks ago. That was a 3rd divorce. So. Suicide gets no bennies for the wife. And 20 years gets you a pension so he was liked FU! I’m out. Not saying it’s right but I understand…

He may have just had the final straw snap for him. And it’s absolute coincidence he chose 1/1 and that happened to be same day as NOLA attack.

The more details that come out this incident, the more it's looking like a clumsy suicide. Even though he's a Green Beret, not everyone is explosive-literate, granted there's quite a bit of cross-training and familiarization not to mention he was an E-8 so, he wasn't a pogue. The 'uber super-soldier' McGyver-resourceful profile that people have about SOF soldiers doesn't always stack-up. We'll know more later...it's not even been a week so, we'll see.
January 03, 2025, 11:49 AM
trapper189
Let’s see, they know he rented the vehicle, they have telemetry from the truck that shows everywhere he stopped. They have video from probably most of those locations as well as credit card transactions. They have the two guns he bought on Monday in the vehicle along with credit cards, driver’s license, and military ID. They have partial tattoos from the burned body that match tattoos he is known to have.

All that was enough for the Las Vegas LEO to announce they were fairly sure the burned body is his, but then said they were waiting on DNA results to be 100% certain.

As far as choice of truck goes, there’s a story out there that he texted photos of to an ex-girlfriend as well as texting he felt like Batman driving it, it’s the shit, and that it is really fast. That supports he picked it because he wanted to drive one.

As far as offing himself before 20 to prevent benefits for the wife, she’s his second wife and they were married for maybe 3 years. I have no clue how the benefits work. I would think in a divorce she would get some portion of what he received, but I would also think he’d have to be alive for that to happen. Is 3 three years of marriage enough for survivor’s benefits? The other wrench is the baby daughter. It’s reported they have a baby girl and if the girl is his, then I can’t imagine he’s purposely mess with anyone’s ability, including the mother’s, to take care of his baby girl.

Enough mental masturbating, I’m going fishing now. Or wait?
January 03, 2025, 11:50 AM
Chris17404
FYI on an upcoming video later today from Shawn Ryan on Matt Livelsberger and the Cyber Truck Explosion at Trump Hotel:





January 03, 2025, 02:21 PM
medic451
SRS video just dropped



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January 03, 2025, 02:37 PM
medic451
If any if this is true… wow





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January 03, 2025, 02:55 PM
parabellum
LINK LINK LINK

WHERE is that from? LINK
January 03, 2025, 02:55 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by medic451:
SRS video just dropped
Who??

LINK LINK LINK

Where is the LINK?
January 03, 2025, 02:56 PM
kkina




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January 03, 2025, 02:58 PM
parabellum
I guarantee you, guys. Guarantee you that with little provocation, I will lock this thread and discussion of this matter will be off-limits from now until next Christmas.
January 03, 2025, 03:15 PM
medic451
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
LINK LINK LINK

WHERE is that from? LINK


It was a screen shot from the Shawn Ryan Show video that was just put up on Youtube- which KKina linked already.
Theres alot of additional context to that email/manifesto. I encourage everyone to watch the SRS video in full.
I could try to unpack what was said, but its alot of info to go over and details in this situation matter.



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January 03, 2025, 03:16 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:
and just had a baby and divorced him 2 weeks ago. That was a 3rd divorce.


False. There has been no mention anywhere of divorce. Though that was probably in their future.


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January 03, 2025, 03:21 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by medic451:
It was a screen shot from the Shawn Ryan Show video that was just put up on Youtube- which KKina linked already.
It is your responsibility to provide links and context for the things you post. Not kkina, not anyone else.
quote:
Theres alot of additional context to that email/manifesto.
I have no idea what you're talking about. WHAT "manifesto"?

Is this even verified as coming from whoever it's supposed to be coming from?

Conspiracy theorists are not going to take over this thread, and I mean it.