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Genealogy experts and buffs, a term please
November 20, 2018, 08:36 AM
0-0Genealogy experts and buffs, a term please
How do you call the daughter of my father`s second cousin, in relation to me?
I have such a "relative" going around and calling herself "my cousin" and I would very much love to tell her to go bake a cake.
Sharing the family name has caused me and my family enough grief for the next century or so.
Thank you.
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"OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20
November 20, 2018, 08:43 AM
architectThird cousin. Oops, that's wrong, I missed the "my father's" at first glance. She would be your third cousin once removed.
The kids of your cousins are your second cousins, their kids are your third cousins, their kids are your fourth cousins, and so on.
This goes in the other direction too (substitute "parents" for "kids").
Here is a reference that explains how the relationship is calculated.
November 20, 2018, 08:51 AM
sigcrazy7It’s the op’s third cousin. She’s his father’s second cousin once removed. If she has a kid, that child becomes the op’s third cousin once removed.
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Eponym Wikipedia - CousinThe diagram on the right has helped me understand relationships and is cheaper than counseling.
I agree with architect: "She would be your third cousin once removed.", and you would be hers.
November 20, 2018, 09:01 AM
Johnny 3eaglesHere is a link for a family chart (this should answer your question):
http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/pdf...lationship-chart.pdf
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November 20, 2018, 09:24 AM
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Nice chart. Thank you for that.
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ElToroMy dad recently ( within last few years) discovered his 1/2 bro. My dad is 75 and his bro is 81. We had a family reunion this summer and I met all my new cousins and my new aunt and uncle. I didn’t have any other term for them. They are nice normal folks and we will send them a Xmas card. but I really don’t know anything else to call them but cousin.
My wife is on ancestry.com and some cousins who she has no idea who they are have plugged in a lot of holes in her family tree. These are 3rd and 4th cousins and they live across the country and they have never met.
November 20, 2018, 12:05 PM
Keystonerquote:
Originally posted by architect:
Third cousin. Oops, that's wrong, I missed the "my father's" at first glance. She would be your third cousin once removed.
The kids of your cousins are your second cousins, their kids are your third cousins, their kids are your fourth cousins, and so on.
This goes in the other direction too (substitute "parents" for "kids").
Here is a reference that explains how the relationship is calculated.
Third cousin is correct and the whole rest of your explanation is wrong.
Year V November 20, 2018, 04:50 PM
flashguyI agree with keystoner--they are 3rd Cousins. From the description, they have a common set of
Great-
Great-
Grandparents. Note that there are 3 "G"s in that label. The number of "G"s in the common relative's relationship is the level of "Cousinhood". If there are generations beyond the common level, those are "Removed". A child of your 3rd Cousin would be your "3rd Cousin Once Removed"; a grandchild of your 3rd Cousin would be your "3rd Cousin Twice Removed". "Removed" can work in the other direction, too--you are a "2nd Cousin Once Removed" to your father's 2nd Cousin, for example.
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Texan by choice, not accident of birth November 21, 2018, 01:23 AM
EponymAfter some more thought, I now agree that 0-0 and she are third cousins.
Thanks, flashguy. Your explanation was clearer to me than others I found online. I'm keeping it for future reference.
November 21, 2018, 05:00 AM
MNSIGStranger?
November 21, 2018, 09:34 AM
0-0I do believe "strangers" is the right answer.
Where it not for the fact that said third cousin allowed my mother to release herself from hospital in the company of a "relative" that took her straight to a bank.
Mother died shortly after. Nobody took her even to the pharmacist to buy her medicine.
I'll ban this person from our lives, ASAP. She wants to visit my disabled sister, God knows her intentions...
Thank you all.
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"OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20
November 21, 2018, 10:01 AM
jhe888Use the table on consanguinity in this article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. November 21, 2018, 10:03 AM
sigmonkeyquote:
Originally posted by 0-0:
I do believe "strangers" is the right answer....
or; as we say in the south, (well, north to you) "She ain't nobody to me."
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! November 21, 2018, 03:01 PM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by Eponym:
After some more thought, I now agree that 0-0 and she are third cousins.
Thanks, flashguy. Your explanation was clearer to me than others I found online. I'm keeping it for future reference.
I have never seen the "counting 'G's method" documented anywhere, so I guess I can claim it. It works for me.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth November 21, 2018, 04:14 PM
zipridersonReading between the lines here - third cousin, so it's OK to sleep with her.
November 21, 2018, 05:31 PM
rsbolo0-0 I'm sorry that stranger is causing you grief.
She is NOT family.
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November 21, 2018, 06:20 PM
honestlouThe answer is third cousin, but I disagree with the comments saying "stranger" or "nobody to me". I'm sure it depends on the family and the situation, but it's definitely a relative that could be close enough to have a relationship with.
I'm thinking of some of my first cousins. We grew up very close, in proximity, and in relationship. Now some of them have children, and I have two boys. My boys, and my first cousins' children are second cousins, and they have fairly close relationships. They are not in close geographic proximity, but have seen each other lots of times at family weddings, etc. I can definitely see their children knowing each other one day.
I can think of some of my parents' second cousins that I am reasonably close to, and my kids know their kids. They don't happen to be best buds, but they certainly know each other.
I think that anyone past first cousin is very dependent on circumstances as to whether or not you have any relationship, but third cousins do support that possibility.
November 21, 2018, 10:21 PM
flashguyhonestlou, I, too, grew up in close proximity to 5 of my First Cousins. We were almost like siblings--our families got together several times a week to play cards together and we kids played games on the floor of the living room. There were 3 of us very close to the same age and we pretty much did everything together. Years later I read an article by a child psychologist who opined that First Cousins are almost as good as siblings--they have a very close relationship but don't have to live with each other 24/7.
Regarding more distant relations, I am fairly active in genealogy and have identified people who are as distant as 6th Cousins. We've not seen each other, but have shared e-mails. If we lived nearby, I suspect we'd at least meet once in a while.
flashguy
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