Originally posted by zoom6zoom: "Hey, it's just driving in circles... how hard could it be?"
Ah, no Detroit is a road course.
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June 04, 2018, 09:15 AM
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June 04, 2018, 10:49 AM
Sailor1911
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Originally posted by Floyd D. Barber: [FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ogAadmeSVhg" width="560"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]
Ends with the walk of shame!
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June 04, 2018, 11:36 AM
Georgeair
Yeah, maybe getting out of the gas would have been a good idea. He thought it was WRC....
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June 04, 2018, 11:41 AM
FlyingScot
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Originally posted by Georgeair: Yeah, maybe getting out of the gas would have been a good idea. He thought it was WRC....
The problem was that he lifted. Basic entry should have been slower (better braking) then on the gas to accelerate out of turn. He lifted because he was too hot to brake in turn and that shifted weight forward - causing oversteer and back end to rotate. He then counter steered and tried to accelerate (look at front tires) and all this did is finish throwing him into the wall.
When learning to drive on track, had an instructor that taught me "Friends don't let friends lift" and "physics is a bitch"
Walk of shame indeed.
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June 04, 2018, 11:43 AM
Ryanp225
The most embarrassed man in the world right there. I feel bad for the guy.
June 04, 2018, 11:56 AM
Clem Eastwood
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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
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Originally posted by 1s1k:
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Originally posted by Clem Eastwood: He ran out of talent. but to be fair; based on the video he didnt have much to begin with. Laying into the throttle of a 700hp car with a roots blower far enough to make boost, while coming out of a corner on street tires is a rookie move.
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Originally posted by mcgivern: Driver is an executive vice president at GM. Maybe he should have taken some driving lessons.
That executive is Mark Reuss who is a certified industry pool test driver on the North Course of the Nürburgring Motorsport Racetrack in Germany, and is licensed for FIA C and IMSA Road Racing.
Lots of pro's have moments like that. Just accepted when they are racing. Not nearly as embarrassing.
Guess he forgot he was on street tires....
June 04, 2018, 12:02 PM
dog44
The car cost $120,000. That's about one weeks pay for him.
June 04, 2018, 12:05 PM
parabellum
The real cost is his pride
June 04, 2018, 12:08 PM
1s1k
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Originally posted by dog44: The car cost $120,000. That's about one weeks pay for him.
Even if it was totaled you're probably correct.
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Originally posted by parabellum: The real cost is his pride
100%. Can you imagine his cohorts busting his chops today.
June 04, 2018, 12:51 PM
Sailor1911
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Originally posted by FlyingScot:
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Originally posted by Georgeair: Yeah, maybe getting out of the gas would have been a good idea. He thought it was WRC....
The problem was that he lifted. Basic entry should have been slower (better braking) then on the gas to accelerate out of turn. He lifted because he was too hot to brake in turn and that shifted weight forward - causing oversteer and back end to rotate. He then counter steered and tried to accelerate (look at front tires) and all this did is finish throwing him into the wall.
When learning to drive on track, had an instructor that taught me "Friends don't let friends lift" and "physics is a bitch"
Walk of shame indeed.
And, cold tires I suspect.
Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.
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June 04, 2018, 01:27 PM
redstone
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Originally posted by mcgivern: Driver is an executive vice president at GM. Maybe he should have taken some driving lessons.
He actually has, so I think this was a surprise to everyone involved.
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June 04, 2018, 01:37 PM
parabellum
Get off of the gas, Andretti
June 04, 2018, 02:26 PM
DanH
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Originally posted by jbcummings:
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Originally posted by zoom6zoom: "Hey, it's just driving in circles... how hard could it be?"
Ah, no Detroit is a road course.
Looks like it to me:
June 04, 2018, 04:43 PM
muddle_mann
Looks like loose sand or dirt all over the track...
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June 05, 2018, 04:03 AM
DanH
Mostly just a lot of asphalt-to-concrete surface changes throughout the entire track. Not the easiest place to drive, but you're also in the pace car with traction/stability control and ABS while the pros get none of that and, for the most part, didn't crash.
June 05, 2018, 05:56 AM
MagnumU
Compare the GM press release pablum, with the exec's honest and direct apology.
GM It is unfortunate that this incident happened. Many factors contributed, including weather and track conditions. The car’s safety systems performed as expected.
Mark Reuss It is never a casual thing for me, but an honor to be asked. Today I let down my friends, my family, IndyCar, our city and my company. Sorry does not describe it. I want to thank our engineers for providing me the safety I know is the best in the world.
June 05, 2018, 06:42 AM
xantom
Sounds like he is actually pretty skilled, anyone can have a bad day.
"The odds are Reuss hit a mid-curve bump at just the wrong angle, launching the ‘Vette hard into the wall.
“It's very easy to do as you go over that crest, and the traction control must have been turned off,” Indy 500-winning driver Will Power said Sunday. “So yeah, I felt — wasn't really his fault. It's just such a bad corner. Like it's very easy to do … You know, that's racing, right? I've seen plenty of pace car crashes. Like I've seen plenty of people coming off in the wet and crash, and not abnormal.”
Reuss has mad skills. He’s one of just 30 engineers in all of GM who are certified to drive development vehicles on the diabolical Nurburgring Nordschliefe, Germany’s legendary 13-mile, 73-turn road course. He’s also licensed to drive FIA C and IMSA Road Racing cars.
He’s not a suit who was showing off and ran out of road and skill. Reuss led GM’s performance division for years. Now he oversees the development of some of the world’s fastest street cars, and he does it from the driver’s seat.
Not many of us would have wanted to be in his seat Sunday."
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