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Some additional reporting here along with Walmart's surveillance video and snippets of the 911 call.

Looks like this all started because Mom didn't let them check her receipt at the door.

https://news.yahoo.com/colorad...-baby-012300791.html


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Moments earlier, a Walmart asset protection employee, who said she was suspicious that Lopez had stolen something, had followed Lopez into the parking lot to get her license plate and was spooked by Louie’s toy gun, as the child played with it in the front seat.

She called 911.

“Hi, I have a shoplift in progress,” the store employee told a 911 operator. “They pulled a gun on me,” she said. “The person in the driver’s seat has a gun.”

The operator asked, “And did they point it at you?” The employee responded, “Yeah.”


Stupid, stupid, stupid


Yep, a real testament to our "education" system.


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Seems like a false report that could have gotten someone killed. Are there typically consequences for reports like this like charges against the Walmart employee?
 
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Funny thing is I never, and I mean never let them check the receipt at the door. Walmart isn’t some club I joined and agreed to their rules. You think I stole something call the cops. You better be right though (which in my case you won’t be).

Checking receipts at the door is a product of a management decision to understaff and use self checkout to save money. So no, fuck you, you can’t check my receipt. I bought this stuff and I’m going to my car.

That employee should not only be fired but charged with a crime. A toddler holding a play gun and you call it in like it’s a scene from Heat? You just swatted someone. Fuck you. And fuck Walmart. They don’t want me on that jury.
 
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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Some additional reporting here along with Walmart's surveillance video and snippets of the 911 call.

Looks like this all started because Mom didn't let them check her receipt at the door.

https://news.yahoo.com/colorad...-baby-012300791.html


I wouldn't let them check my purchases either. I would have told their loss prevention person "Let's go to customer service. There they can check my bags and do a full refund all at once."

A Wal-Mart cashier processed the order, it was not at the self checkout lane. If the store has any suspicion of the cashier's honesty they should deal with it in house and not involve a customer.


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I wouldn't let them check my purchases either.



I agree. Perhaps when they have to start paying money out due to this nonsense it will stop. All sorts of videos on Youtube showing ridiculous interactions with the receipt checkers.


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I don’t get it. I thought petty theft was no longer a crime.


Most states now recognize:

Any theft that includes force or violence at some point during the commission is enhanced to robbery.

Any robbery where a weapon is used or displayed in the course of the robbery is enhanced to aggravated robbery.

Based on what is available in the article, the police received a report of armed robbery in progress and responded based on that information
 
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I wouldn't let them check my purchases either.



I agree. Perhaps when they have to start paying money out due to this nonsense it will stop. All sorts of videos on Youtube showing ridiculous interactions with the receipt checkers.


Every time they have ever asked me to check my receipt I just nod and say 'No thank you' and never break stride. They haven't ever followed me or made an issue of it.

That woman has been well coached and already spoke to a lawyer before that interview - she is taking about lifetime 'emotional scars' that will never heal. Exactly what her lawyer told her to say!! Smile



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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:. . . That woman has been well coached and already spoke to a lawyer before that interview - she is taking about lifetime 'emotional scars' that will never heal. Exactly what her lawyer told her to say!! Smile


So a big $$ settlement won't heal the scars, but will somewhat reduce the pain. Roll Eyes




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AP/LP will likely get some revised policy from this one,

and the AP guy will likely get fired for following them in the lot and making the call,

most big stores don't allow them to leave the sidewalk any more,


as someone who was a Store Manager for some high volume grocery stores, I get the need for AP/LP, but generally speaking, the fuk up more than the fix, and honestly are not worth the payroll



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I watched the video a1abdj posted at the top of this page and what I see is the Walmart employee walking up behind the car, the "gun" being flashed out the window, and then the Walmart employee high tails it out of there. Sure, with the benefit of our 20/20 hindsight, we all know is was a toy gun held by a one year old kid in the front seat. The Walmart employee didn't stick around long enough to figure it out. I wouldn't have either if I had caught a glimpse of that toy gun. I don't believe the Walmart employee did anything unreasonable.
 
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For this, I would hire the most vicious, bloodthirsty lawyer I could find and rake Walmart over the coals.


Walmart used to have a reputation as being a very aggressive litigant itself. And they have lots of money to play that game.

I'm not saying they are in the right here, but Walmart was not a checkbook defense (as they pay off litigants) kind of target, at least not when I was closer to that kind of litigation.




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Before AP/LP becomes obsolete, are there any tips for how I can get a payday like this?




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Walmart used to have a reputation as being a very aggressive litigant itself. And they have lots of money to play that game.

I'm not saying they are in the right here, but Walmart was not a checkbook defense (as they pay off litigants) kind of target, at least not when I was closer to that kind of litigation.


With the 911 call being released and the Walmart employee backtracking on her initial statement after speaking with the dispatcher, in your opinion, how does that affect the way Walmart legal would approach this?


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For this, I would hire the most vicious, bloodthirsty lawyer I could find and rake Walmart over the coals.


Walmart used to have a reputation as being a very aggressive litigant itself. And they have lots of money to play that game.

I'm not saying they are in the right here, but Walmart was not a checkbook defense (as they pay off litigants) kind of target, at least not when I was closer to that kind of litigation.

Given the circumstances, I suspect they will take a much different route other than an aggressive defense. Unless the family was suspected of actual theft, door monitors have no right to stop you. They also can’t call the law making false assertions of being threatened with a gun. I’d make them pay.




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Originally posted by jhe888:
Walmart used to have a reputation as being a very aggressive litigant itself. And they have lots of money to play that game.

I'm not saying they are in the right here, but Walmart was not a checkbook defense (as they pay off litigants) kind of target, at least not when I was closer to that kind of litigation.


With the 911 call being released and the Walmart employee backtracking on her initial statement after speaking with the dispatcher, in your opinion, how does that affect the way Walmart legal would approach this?


I don't know. They aren't stupid, but they didn't want to roll over for every slip and fall or other claim.




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