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Looks like there was a mid-air collision, and both pilots are confirmed dead. No ground fatalities. Happened towards the end of the event, the last time ever for the races.

Not a good day for airplanes.




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Damn! Didn't the Hogue crash also happen somewhere there last year?


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Damn! Didn't the Hogue crash also happen somewhere there last year?


I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully Juan Browne will have a video out soon on his blancolirio YouTube channel with details.

Edit: Juan put out a video that the races are currently suspended pending a meeting by the presidents.

September 17, 2023 UPDATE Races Cancelled

AT-6 Mid Air collision in the pattern following the AT-6 Gold Race.
 
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The guy that died in the P-63 Kingcobra crash in the Dallas air show was my IOE Captain in 2018. He was at the Reno races some years ago when the plane crashed into the stands. He escaped death THAT time by mere FEET. Still shake my head over that guy...



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The guy that died in the P-63 Kingcobra crash in the Dallas air show was my IOE Captain in 2018. He was at the Reno races some years ago when the plane crashed into the stands. He escaped death THAT time by mere FEET. Still shake my head over that guy...


My wife's friend's husband & his dad had tickets that year, in the seats where it went down. They decided at the last minute not to make the trip from Bakersfield.




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Tragically the collision happened after the race finish, during a cool-down lap, as the aircraft were turning from the downwind leg to base. There's eyewitness reports of one of the plane's vertical stabilizers being sheared completely off. No videos of the actual crash have been officially released as of yet.



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The Reno Air Racing Association identified the pilots as Nick Macy and Chris Rushing. Macy piloted Six-Cat and Rushing flew Baron’s Revenge. Both were Gold winners in the T-6 Class. News 4

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Well that sucks.

I can't say I'm sorry to see the Reno air races end, though. Too many warbirds and pilots have been lost over the decades, IMO. . .



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...I can't say I'm sorry to see the Reno air races end, though...


I don't think the races are ending, but they're looking a new location. Apparently, the formerly rural Reno/Stead area now has housing developments everywhere.
 
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...I can't say I'm sorry to see the Reno air races end, though...


I don't think the races are ending, but they're looking a new location. Apparently, the formerly rural Reno/Stead area now has housing developments everywhere.

Yes, correct. From what I hear there's some 6 places bidding for their new location. Nothing definite yet.



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https://youtu.be/xEB9ztof0mA?si=XsUlRbICmoD0FhtX


Just some early analysis. The accident happened after the races was over, coming in to land.
 
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This might not be the most popular opinion, but after well over a half century of flying and instructing, I believe that there are a few types of flying that fall into the "hold my beer" category, presenting unnecessary risk with no appreciable benefit.

This type of air race is one of the activities that I personally classify that way.



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^^^^^^

I certainly see your point. The same could be said of automobile racing. But I guess man was designed with the inner urge to conquer machine. So we'll have "Man vs Machine" until the end of time...



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Juan with more details about the crash. Video shows the race, but not the actual collision. He does, however, model the crash for us. Bad, definitely not survivable.




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This might not be the most popular opinion, but after well over a half century of flying and instructing, I believe that there are a few types of flying that fall into the "hold my beer" category, presenting unnecessary risk with no appreciable benefit.

This type of air race is one of the activities that I personally classify that way.
I can’t say you’re wrong, but I’m not sure where one draws the line. Is aerobatic competition okay? How ‘bout airshows? Heck, cropdusting, while it does have an appreciable benefit, is extremely dangerous.

I guess I’m with Thomas Jefferson on the notion of dangerous freedom. While I may not choose to do air racing, I’m happy that it is my choice, not the FAA’s and that others are free to choose differently.
 
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This might not be the most popular opinion, but after well over a half century of flying and instructing, I believe that there are a few types of flying that fall into the "hold my beer" category, presenting unnecessary risk with no appreciable benefit.

This type of air race is one of the activities that I personally classify that way.

My understanding is this crash was on approach, which makes one wonder, does this incident have the same issues as the B-17/P-63 mid-air collision in Dallas 2022 where altitude deconfliction and clear understanding of flight paths was not explicit?
 
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6 cities bid to be new home of National Championship Air Races

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Posted By: Haley Davoren, GlobalAir.com
Published: Oct. 20, 2023 at 09:28 AM EST
Updated: Oct. 22, 2023 at 01:15 PM EST

"Six cities across the U.S. have submitted over 1,500 pages of documents to be chosen as the new home of the National Championship Air Races. In March the Reno Air Racing Association announced that the 2023 event would be the final race held at the Reno-Stead Airport (RTS). After nearly 60 years, the airport decided to sever its ties with the historic racing event, citing the rapid development in the region, economic conditions, public safety and the impact on the public and airport. In June RARA officially began taking bids for a new host for the races and on Thursday it announced six bidders were vying for the role...

The six bidding cities include Casper, Wyoming; Buckeye, Arizona; Pueblo, Colorado; Roswell, New Mexico; Thermal, California; and Wendover, Utah..."

Complete article:

https://www.globalair.com/arti...ampionship-air-races
 
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Bring it to Pueblo, the wife and I will watch it every year.


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Bring it to Buckeye. Large population pools to draw from over several states.
 
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