SIGforum
Israel Destroys Hamas Intel HQ

This topic can be found at:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/5780089184

May 17, 2021, 10:45 PM
MikeinNC
Israel Destroys Hamas Intel HQ
Thanks Sigolicious, very interesting.



"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein

“You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020

“A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker
May 17, 2021, 10:52 PM
mr kablammo
PLO and Hamas, Nazi leftovers; burn 'em out branch and root.


"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre.
May 17, 2021, 10:54 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Paraphrasing Lincoln- a house divided cannot stand. It must become all one thing, or all another.

Nuclear weapons are the wildcard in the Middle East. You don't want to be on this planet when all of that starts over there. It's only a matter of time.

Why not. To see the good guys defeat the bad guys and assimilate the land, that sounds good not bad. What's the difference if Israel nukes the bad guys or levels them with conventional weaponry ? You just can't keep giving the bullies more lunch money, it makes them worse. Punch them back so they will stop. If they're not convinced with force level 1, use force level 2. And if you still can't convince them to leave be, then you may push the damned button if they force you to do so. Because that's why they exist, when all other reasonable alternatives fail, unless you prefer eating garbage, torture, execution, being a slave or range target, or much worse things I couldn't imagine.




Lover of the US Constitution
Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster
May 18, 2021, 04:39 AM
mbinky
The precision is remarkable. And what the heck do they use to kill everyone in the car but not blow it to a million pieces?

Senior Islamist commander is 'killed in Israeli airstrike' after dozens of jets pounded Gaza overnight in 'heaviest bombardment since fighting began' as death toll rises to 211

A senior Palestinian militant commander has been killed in an Israeli airstrike, the country's air force has claimed, following a night of heavy bombardment that saw more than a hundred bombs dropped on Gaza.

Hussam Abu Harbid, commander of the Northern Division of Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), was killed in a strike on Monday, according to the Israeli air force as airstrikes continued into Monday afternoon.

Harbid was behind rocket attacks against Israel including several launched on the first day of the most-recent clashes, the Israeli air force said, and had been a commander within PIJ for at least 15 years.







https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-toll-rises-207.html
May 18, 2021, 05:17 AM
rburg
Well no wonder. The airbsgs didn't deploy and save him. Smile


Unhappy ammo seeker
May 18, 2021, 08:25 AM
BOATTRASH1
^^^^^I wonder if that was a hit by the flying ginzu weapon?
May 18, 2021, 09:31 AM
Expert308
quote:
Originally posted by Sigolicious:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I’m interested to know what munition was used in destroying “the metro”.
I imagine the death toll is much higher as I’m sure people were buried in the tunnels.

Prevailing theory is the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb. Specifically the GBU-39A/B – SDB Focused Lethality Munition (FLM).

quote:
a version of the SDB I which replaces the steel casing with a lightweight composite casing and the warhead with a focused-blast explosive such as Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME). This should further reduce collateral damage when using the weapon for pin-point strikes in urban areas.


Kinda gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Dropping a dime on someone", doesn't it? Wink
May 18, 2021, 09:52 AM
GJG
quote:
Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
^^^^^I wonder if that was a hit by the flying ginzu weapon?

I don't have any experience with military munitions but this looks more like a flying shotgun than a ginzu. That car was peppered by small diameter pellets - look at the way the steering wheel cover was shredded


Light bender eye mender
___________________________________________________________
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston
May 18, 2021, 10:00 AM
mutedblade


pay particular attention to the explosion at 1:20.

Explanation of Dense Inert Metal Explosive

I would like to see a photo of the spot on the ground where the car was actually impacted (not where it rolled to a stop), I'm sure it would be quite telling. If you look at the roof of the vehicle, you can see it was clearly perforated in a consistent manner. I'd say without a doubt it was a GBU 39 FLM.


___________________________
No thanks, I've already got a penguin.
May 18, 2021, 10:03 AM
MikeinNC
quote:
Originally posted by GJG:
quote:
Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
^^^^^I wonder if that was a hit by the flying ginzu weapon?

I don't have any experience with military munitions but this looks more like a flying shotgun than a ginzu. That car was peppered by small diameter pellets - look at the way the steering wheel cover was shredded


The claymore mine is literally a backing plate with explosive and covered in ball bearings...when it goes off it is akin to a shotgun.

Other anti-air missiles/anti air artillery shells don’t actually strike the target airplane but explode at or near the target, as the aircraft is going so fast it self destructs when hit with shrapnel.

I imagine the missile/bomb used on the car had a proximity fuse and detonated a few feet above the target sending shrapnel into the car-lessening the risk of bystanders being injured by parts of the car becoming shrapnel



"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein

“You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020

“A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker
May 18, 2021, 10:23 AM
Balzé Halzé
Pretty amazing weapons system. Damn, that's a lot of ammo.

https://fb.watch/5yXMK9WwrB/

ETA: disregard. It's a freaking video game.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Balzé Halzé,


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

"Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle
May 18, 2021, 10:29 AM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
The precision is remarkable. And what the heck do they use to kill everyone in the car but not blow it to a million pieces?



The intel is remarkable, too.


____________________

Blessed be the Lord, my Rock
May 18, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jimbo54
quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
The precision is remarkable. And what the heck do they use to kill everyone in the car but not blow it to a million pieces?



The intel is remarkable, too.


The real time intel is amazing. I'm assuming Mossad has a large presence on the ground.

Jim


________________________

"If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird
May 18, 2021, 11:31 AM
MikeinNC
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Pretty amazing weapons system. Damn, that's a lot of ammo.

https://fb.watch/5yXMK9WwrB/


It’s a video game



"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein

“You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020

“A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker
May 18, 2021, 04:28 PM
Skins2881
New Yorkers screaming Intifada, Intifada, Intifada in the last video of this tweet thread. Man these big city liberals love violent insurrection in which the insurrectionists and their cause are hurt.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
May 18, 2021, 04:40 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:


It’s a video game


D'oh!


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

"Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle
May 18, 2021, 07:12 PM
Graniteguy
Love to have the ammo contract for that program. Big Grin
May 18, 2021, 09:03 PM
gw3971


That plane is fucking magnificent. Just saying...
May 18, 2021, 09:52 PM
nhracecraft
^^^Yes, it is...Absolutely Magnificent! Cool


____________________________________________________________

If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !!
Trump 2024....Save America!
"May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20
Live Free or Die!
May 18, 2021, 10:52 PM
Lefty Sig
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
New Yorkers screaming Intifada, Intifada, Intifada in the last video of this tweet thread. Man these big city liberals love violent insurrection in which the insurrectionists and their cause are hurt.


And now this:

"Black Lives Matter stands in solidarity with Palestinians. We are a movement committed to ending settler colonialism in all forms and will continue to advocate for Palestinian liberation. ( always have. And always will be ).
#freepalestine"

https://twitter.com/Blklivesma.../1394289672101064704

Because you know, the Israelis have been there for 4000 years, and Islam didn't even exist until less than 1000 years ago. So who are the colonialists? The "Palestinians" and their leaders are Arabs from Egypt, Jordan, and other Arab countries. But never let history or facts upset a good narrative.