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Short Version....because we know when the eclipse is happening, we should trust climate scientists ![]()
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...lipse-is-a-clue.html ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | ||
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Ummm...different branches of science, astronomy vs. climatology? In the one case, it's straight physics and the other is a complex of physics, chemistry and terrestrial and extraterrestrial factors. Clearly the success of prediction in one case is a sign of successful prediction in the other! ---------------------------- Chuck Norris put the laughter in "manslaughter" Educating the youth of America, one declension at a time. | |||
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Knows too little about too much ![]() |
Celestial mechanics is pretty well thought out. Calculating what a big old bag of mixed gasses will do when acted on by a myriad of forces, is not. However the weak of mind will believe anything you tell them if a celebrity tells them or its repeated long enough. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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Since we can successfully run the solar and lunar models backwards and have it spit out correct data for previous historical events, we have a fairly good idea we can trust those models. The same cannot be said for any of the climate models they have ever used. ------------- $ | |||
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I guess it's settled then LoL. Annoying thing is this will be the arguement for it for some time now from the idiots who can't think for themselves... !~God Bless the U.S. Military~! If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak | |||
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The Main Thing Is Not To Get Excited ![]() |
Physics vs. psychics, astronomers vs. astrologers, physicians vs. phrenologists, chemists vs. alchemists, right? Let them all do their work and honor each and every one. I mean science is like your opinion dude. _______________________ | |||
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The Mayan priests were also able to predict eclipses. They considered this esoteric knowledge to be proof positive that they had mystical powers to communicate with the gods. Satterthwaite, Linton (January 1949). "The Dark Phase of the Moon and Ancient Maya Methods of Solar Eclipse Prediction". American Antiquity. Society for American Archaeology. 14 (3): 230–234 Not much has really changed. "Crom is strong! If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, 'What is the riddle of steel?' If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me." | |||
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From the Mike Rowe article in the Mike Rowe thread: "Yesterday, on The Science Channel, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, a noted astronomer, tweeted that the ability of scientists to accurately predict the solar eclipse, was proof that predictions of global warming were also accurate. That’s a logical fallacy." | |||
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Don't Panic![]() |
NYT has been very weak on what constitutes 'proof' for the last several decades. Allow me to summarize the NYT screed: 1) Scientists are occasionally able to correctly predict things in some areas. 2) Therefore everything claimed by every scientist we like is necessarily true. 3) Therefore, anyone who opposes point 2) is not a scientist. Where's the fallacy? ![]() | |||
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Sad thing is, a number of those in my neck of the woods will believe this, and use such as proof positive that man will destroy planet Earth unless we give the gov't total control of the production and use of energy. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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That a scientist can tell the truth is not evidence he/she will tell the truth. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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What morons! Meteorology and Astronomy are apples and oranges. 90% of these "Scientists" are NOT in fact Scientists and among the few that are there is a wide split amongst them... I think this whole subject is bullshit. _________________________ | |||
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How much data did scientists have to falsify to predict the eclipse? . | |||
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Sorry but what exactly have the climate change group successfully predicted? It seems like they have been wrong every single time. The scientists predicting the eclipses on the other hand have always been right. Seems pretty straightforward as to which scientists we should believe Calgary Shooting Centre | |||
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Hehe, I like that. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Apparently your basic Philosophy course, called Language and Logic is now an elective or not offered on college campuses. This is beyond stupid. People confusing correlation with causality is somewhat understandable, but this is beyond the pale. | |||
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Didn't the Mayans have this eclipse thing worked out? — Pissed off beats scared every time… - Frank Castle | |||
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Frangas non Flectes![]() |
And the Aztecs, and the Chinese, probably many others with some obvious low-hanging-fruit examples missing. Three thousand years of truly "settled science." Those cultures also had all kinds of other funny ideas about the end of the world that correlated with the movement of the stars. How other celestial bodies move with startling predictability has not much to do with our climate (with perhaps solar flares and lunar tides aside); the ability to accurately, and honestly observe, deduce and report what changes are happening in our climate is radically different from observing phenomenon that have been understood for millennia. A classic non-sequitor. ______________________________________________ Endeavoring to master the art of the grapefruit spoon. | |||
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