They checked the 'anybody but...' box..a familiar line of reasoning.

Macon always leaned-Left but, attempted to placate moderates who didn't want any upheaval by forming a new political party. Now, in a desperate bid to stay in power, he's given the far-left a toe-hold in government; we'll see how much he's compromised when they announce the terms.

You have to understand the French mindset. Most recoil at the thought of voting for anything right-wing. It's in their DNA. After all, the terms left and right originate from the French. Given the choice between an ultra far left candidate, and one merely "smeared" as right-wing, they will vote for the leftist every time.

Years ago when Le Pen was first on the scene and running for the French presidency, I thought she might have a chance. My wife laughed at me and said no, the French will never elect a right-wing candidate. That was back in 2012 I think. So far, she's been proven right.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
You have to understand the French mindset. Most recoil at the thought of voting for anything right-wing. It's in their DNA. After all, the terms left and right originate from the French. Given the choice between an ultra far left candidate, and one merely "smeared" as right-wing, they will vote for the leftist every time.

Years ago when Le Pen was first on the scene and running for the French presidency, I thought she might have a chance. My wife laughed at me and said no, the French will never elect a right-wing candidate. That was back in 2012 I think. So far, she's been proven right.

Hollande and to a lesser extend, Mitterrand's legacy continues, while the Foucault disciples rejoice knowing they're another step closer to the controlling levers.

Out of curiosity, i asked my best belgian friend, a southern France resident for over 30 years, about Le Pens chances.
He said it ain’t happening.

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I’m so grateful that we don’t have a parliamentary style government in this country. It truly seems to be an impediment to getting the will of the people done. For all the weaknesses of our style government, I don’t think we would have had the same outcome with our style government .

First the UK goes full retard and votes Labour back in and now this?

Europe is fucked


https://x.com/AXChristoforou/s.../1810028277542646026

Can you cool it, please?

Eventually, if Macron and the very left continue to run the country into the ground, the pendulum will probably swing back.

That’s all well and good but who in their right mind wants to govern a destroyed country?

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
I’m so grateful that we don’t have a parliamentary style government in this country. It truly seems to be an impediment to getting the will of the people done. For all the weaknesses of our style government, I don’t think we would have had the same outcome with our style government .

It's not the parliamentary system, it's constituency-based majorital voting, which France and the UK share with the US; actually including presidential elections for the latter due to the Electoral College - there have of course been four American presidents elected with no popular majority, plus the peculiar case of John Quincy Adams. The outcomes look just less stark in the US due to its effective two-party system. With a half-dozen parties standing chances to win constituencies in France and the UK, the skew potential is much bigger.

The recent British elections are a particularly egregious example, since Labour didn't win a bigger share of the national popular vote than five years ago when they were roundly trounced by Boris Johnson - yet this time they won almost two thirds of the seats in Parliament. The difference is that the Conservatives lost droves of voters after 14 years in power and five prime ministers exhibiting lackluster management of various crises; some of them self-inflicted, like Brexit and driving the economy to the edge of a cliff with the ill-considered tax reform plans during the 50-day reign of Liz Truss.

People who blamed them for not making Brexit work despite reality voted Nigel Farage's Reform UK, while others pissed off with their performance either went to the centrist Liberal Democrats, or stayed home. That split an already-reduced conservative vote in three, benefiting Labour, who also profited from the abysmal showing of the Scottish National Party. The SNP previously had a lot of seats in Scotland which traditionally used to be Labour-dominated, but after a string of scandals around successive leaders, people seem to have had enough of them. Scottish secessionism also appears to have lost its appeal in the current economy; it's something people dream of when they have no bigger problems.

In France, tactical alliances for the peculiarity of second-round voting coupled with a high turnout led to the present results. I didn't know that in fact any candidate who wins at least 12.5 percent of the votes in a constituency during the first round gets advanced to the second; always thought it was just a run-off between the two best-placed if neither wins an outright majority. Which it usually is, too, but record voter numbers led to numerous three- or even four-way-races, allowing the least hopeful candidates to bow out IOT prevent RN wins. Plus even more voters turned out for the second round, many probably with the same motivation.

BTW, the headlines over the unexpected distribution between the three major blocs largely neglect that those are made up of several individual parties each, so the results are not necessarily clear-cut between left, center and right. The leftist "New Popular Front" in particular is a rather precarious alliance between anti-EU populists (projected at 73-80 seats), pro-EU socialists (60-64), progressive Greens (33-36) and orthodox communists (11-12). Even if they could agree on a domestic political program, leaving foreign policy to the traditional domaine réservé of the president, they still don't have a majority in the National Assembly. They will need another 100 seats or so to make 289.

Macron's center bloc of 152-158 may go with the Socialists and Greens, but likely not with the Communists and the anti-EU "France Unbowed" - rather they might want to include the conservative Republicans in a broad coalition with themselves as the biggest partner, providing the prime minister. Either way, Macron right now really can lean back and watch the left bloc struggle with itself while the current government stays on in a caretaker role, or appoint a left-wing PM and watch him struggle with no majority of his own in parliament. Then there's the question how the outcome will inform Marine Le Pen's decision with whom to go in the EU parliament, where the Right is currently trying to sort itself between a faction led by Italian PM Georgia Meloni, and one led by Hungarian PM Viktor Orban; that's a whole extra can of worms.

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Originally posted by BansheeOne:
In France, tactical alliances for the peculiarity of second-round voting coupled with a high turnout led to the present results. I didn't know that in fact any candidate who wins at least 12.5 percent of the votes in a constituency during the first round gets advanced to the second; always thought it was just a run-off between the two best-placed if neither wins an outright majority. Which it usually is, too, but record voter numbers led to numerous three- or even four-way-races, allowing the least hopeful candidates to bow out IOT prevent RN wins. Plus even more voters turned out for the second round, many probably with the same motivation.

Sounds like our ranked choice voting, which is a scam designed by leftists for leftists.

Royalement foutus!

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by BansheeOne:
In France, tactical alliances for the peculiarity of second-round voting coupled with a high turnout led to the present results. I didn't know that in fact any candidate who wins at least 12.5 percent of the votes in a constituency during the first round gets advanced to the second; always thought it was just a run-off between the two best-placed if neither wins an outright majority. Which it usually is, too, but record voter numbers led to numerous three- or even four-way-races, allowing the least hopeful candidates to bow out IOT prevent RN wins. Plus even more voters turned out for the second round, many probably with the same motivation.

Sounds like our ranked choice voting, which is a scam designed by leftists for leftists.

That was my exact thought too when I read the above. Very sad times.

(W)hen (E)lections (F)ail

I wish I could say I was surprised by France caving in but I can’t.

I held a sliver of hope they would do the right thing when the chips were down but they are nothing more than indoctrinated socialists.

France deserves everything that befalls them from here on out and the people that did not vote for Le Pen can look at themselves in the mirror and know that they helped to destroy their nation.

Just to be clear, Le Pen wasn't on the ballot. Her party was.

The next French presidential election will be in 2027. Macron is in his 2nd term having been reelected in 2022. They serve five year terms.

The Communists and Socialists Have Won the French Election – The Prime Minister Immediately Resigns

We knew it was going to happen this way, that’s why CTH didn’t join in the initial celebration when French President Emmanuel Macron announced the snap election. France is ground zero in the EU for U.S. interference via the U.S State Dept/CIA operations. Macron is a tool of the far left, who are controlled by the intelligence apparatchik.

When the first round was over, CTH said, “Macron will instruct his centrist seats, who lost, to organize their votes for the far-left socialists, thereby blocking the National Rally party from gaining a working majority. Just like the radical leftists in the USA (Democrats), Macron’s followers will do exactly what they are told to do.” Well, that’s exactly what happened.

When the Macron coalition started resigning to support the communists, CTH again said, “For this second round of the election, President Emmanuel Macron and Prime Minister Gabriel Attal have organized 210 candidate exits.” … “All of the opposition research files on the Marine Le Pen supported nationalist candidates are being dropped in advance of the Sunday election, in an effort to stop the conservative French from achieving victory. These are all direct plays from the revolutionary communist playbook.” {LINK} Well, again, that’s exactly what happened.

Now, here’s the results of the second-round vote today. The coalition of communists and far-left socialists have won.

(VIA AP) – The first projections in the 2024 French legislative election say leftists have won most seats. The surprise projections put President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist alliance in second and the far right in third.

[…] French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal says he will resign. This comes after projections show a leftist coalition has surged to the lead in legislative elections. Final election results are expected on Monday.

[…] They had just days to come together. The leaders of France’s left-wing parties have acknowledged they made compromises to unite in an effort to keep the far-right National Rally party from taking power in France.

The coalition calls itself the New Popular Front, named after a similar coalition formed in the 1930s against the rise of fascism in France. It includes environmentalist parties, the French Socialists and Communists and the hard-left France Unbowed party. (read more)

As anticipated…. “It really is remarkable to watch the similarities between left-wing politics in the USA and left-wing politics in France. Historically, and in actual practice, we see this similarity as history rhymes and repeats. In both instances, you will note how the “mainstream” Democrats align with the communists to stop the majority of commonsense patriots.

In the USA, Democrats enjoy the activity of their foot soldiers in Antifa (Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, or RevCom etc.) In France, the Democrats (NPF), within Macron’s camp, enjoy the activity of Black Bloc (the EU Antifa socialists and communists).

Now, watch what will happen with the socialists/communists in charge. This is what those new majorities previously pledged they would do:

(Via Bloomberg) – France’s leftist alliance would raise the top marginal income tax rate to 90% if it were to take over the government following legislative elections that run through July 7.

Eric Coquerel provided the figure in an interview in Cnews television, saying that the New Popular Front’s proposal would pass muster with French courts and wouldn’t be considered confiscatory because it would only have an impact on the highest portion of a taxpayer’s income.

While Coquerel, who presided over the finance committee at the National Assembly before its dissolution on June 9, didn’t specify the level at which the 90% rate would apply, the plan was previously in the program of his far-left France Unbowed party. In a budget amendment proposed in 2019, the top rate would apply on taxable income over €411,683 ($440,213).

The income tax rate in France currently tops out at 45% on income over €177,106. (more)

To stop the commonsense, pragmatic and ordinary patriotic French people from having a voice. The centrists in the French government have now given the majority of their legislature to the communists and socialists.

Also, as we predicted:

“The Nationalists will act flummoxed, stunned, jaw-agape, just like good little French Republicans. The French people will wonder what happened just like American conservatives. Wash – Rinse- Repeat.

https://theconservativetreehou...resigns/#more-261901

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

The next French presidential election will be in 2027. Macron is in his 2nd term having been reelected in 2022. They serve five year terms.

That's a long time to continue on the same path. Things are moving quickly.

Mélenchon now that he's got a national platform, will be a problem, he's sounding more and more like a S.American Lefty more at home in Bolivia or, Venezuela. Already calling for Macron to step-down even though he's a coalition partner

Well, Mélenchon is so popular within the leftist New Popular Front that every member party except his own "France Unbowed" categorically rejects him being put forward as prime minister. In many ways he's just Le Pen dressed in red: Anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-Ukraine, with a side of "tax the rich", "solidarity with Palestine", and Castro worship.

Tells you something when discussion in the winning bloc is that they should nominate a candidate within a week after the election to show that they are ready to rule, but for God's sake not from the member party which won the most seats among them. Because the NPF was't formed to win, but to prevent an RN win; as noted before, they really don't agree on much else other than walking back Macron's pro-market reforms. They're kinda like the dog that caught the car, and now doesn't know what to do with it.