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Originally posted by corsair:
Agent you have three options:

1. Turn-in your badge
2. Get reassigned to the office in Fairbanks with no chance ever of getting a preferred assignment.
3. You can stay at the Denver office but, you get desk duty and a wooden gun forever.

Or a fourth option (it is Denver)
4. Blame the gun because we don't really hold people accountable.

Just sent this to my FBI buds an hour ago...




No response yet...

We had on FBI agent in town a year or so ago who lost his job.

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Originally posted by reflex/deflex 64:
Panic at the disco.

Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
HANG THE DJ, HANG THE DJ
Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ
HANG THE DJ

Hang Him.
Hang Him High

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:

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Originally posted by Shaql:
So he shoots someone, puts his weapon away, and walks away like "my bad", showing no concern for the person he shot? WTF?

It isn't Hoover's FBI anymore.

Yeah, the agent wasn't wearing a dress on the dance floor.

I posted this last year...guess things haven't changed:

FBI Supervisor has gun stolen after night of drinking
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/1630039234/p/1

You know his outfit is tacky, but his haircut appears regulation.LOL This is more characteristic of Secret Service guys. Maybe there is a position on the Clinton detail. He could be a celebrity guest on Dance Fever. They even had Dick Butkus as a judge, he REALLY cannot dance.

There was the story last year of the young FBI agent who was carjacked at a gas station in Chicago. The car was found several days later when it collected a parking ticket. The story then disappeared from the media. I have a feeling this story has more staying power.

It is unlawful to possess a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or controlled substances.

Now let's have equal application of the law.

Likely while sober this FBI agent thought it was wise to small of the back carry to a crowded dance club, "Mile High Spirits".

The decision to have the first alcoholic drink was made while sober and carrying a loaded weapon.

The decision to do a backflip while carrying a loaded firearm in the small of the back was likely made while under the influence of alcohol.

The decision to retrieve the weapon, while wrapping a finger around the trigger was made while under the influence.

This FBI agent makes bad decisions both sober and while intoxicated, yet my gut feeling is he will remain employed.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
He should face the same charges as the average citizen would. Doubt it will happen though.

So, if you don’t mind, what exactly are the “same charges” that the average citizen would face? Specific statues, please.

What are the specific charges, as they apply to this situation that the “average citizen” would be charged with? And the legal justification of why by statue.

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
He should face the same charges as the average citizen would. Doubt it will happen though.

So, if you don’t mind, what exactly are the “same charges” that the average citizen would face? Specific statues, please.

What are the specific charges, as they apply to this situation that the “average citizen” would be charged with? And the legal justification of why by statue.

It occurs to me the agent's consequences may be even greater than the average citizen. He will likely lose his job and career. He will at least lose his potential in that career. The average citizen will likely be able to keep his livelihood if he is found to have been innocent of negligence. Speculation on my part.

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
He should face the same charges as the average citizen would. Doubt it will happen though.

So, if you don’t mind, what exactly are the “same charges” that the average citizen would face? Specific statues, please.

What are the specific charges, as they apply to this situation that the “average citizen” would be charged with? And the legal justification of why by statue.

Well, we're all assuming he had a few drinks (assuming because no where in the article did it mention that he was intoxicated or even had a single drink), but given the circumstances that seems a very likely assumption. If you or I had negligently discharged a firearm while intoxicated in a public place causing injury to another person, wouldn't we face at least revocation of our license and even possibly jail time? It's a bit like drunk driving and having an accident, isn't it?

Just another video example of white people trying to be black.

Cannot imagine a sober guy acting as this FBI agent did.

Therefore I believe this is a place to start in regards to illegalities of his actions.

C.R.S. 18-12-106 Prohibited Use of Weapons
(1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if:
(d) The person has in his or her possession a firearm while the person is under the influence of intoxicating liquor or of a controlled substance, as defined in section 18-18-102 (5). Possession of a permit issued under section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or possession of a permit or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article is no defense to a violation of this subsection (1).

Not a lawyer but, I think this comes into play as well.

C.R.S. 18-12-107.5 Illegal discharge of a firearm - penalty

1) Any person who knowingly or recklessly discharges a firearm into any dwelling or any other building or occupied structure, or into any motor vehicle occupied by any person, commits the offense of illegal discharge of a firearm.
(2) It shall not be an offense under this section if the person who discharges a firearm in violation of subsection (1) of this section is a peace officer as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., acting within the scope of such officer's authority and in the performance of such officer's duties.
(3) Illegal discharge of a firearm is a class 5 felony.

However it is Colorado, maybe after negligently shooting someone throwing your hands in the air, saying my bad and walking away is acceptable.

Should have been armed off duty. May or may not have been an "agency approved" bar. Other than the
police investigation___there will be a bureau investigation.
Either way___ the bureau will "frown" on this.
What's all this "anti FBI agent" stuff? For sure
his weapon wasn't secured well.
Stay safe
Poli Viejo

Crap like this is why we have a strict policy on off duty carry. Holsters have to be approved or you can't carry it. It's got to have some type of retention. Can't drink while armed. etc.

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What's all this "anti FBI agent" stuff? For sure
his weapon wasn't secured well.

I think if you are fortunate enough to be able to become an FBI agent you should be held to a HIGHER standard than the general public. The behavior displayed by this guy is inexcusable. The politics in Washington do not make things any easier. He shows a lack of basic common sense and judgement.

Yes, jobs come with different levels of expectations.

Those jobs with authority over others comes with higher responsibilities and expectations.

Likewise jobs with higher risk of injury to others also come with higher expectations.

As an FBI agent, this gentleman should have known better.
As I noted earlier he was likely sober when he started down the path to this negligent discharge.
Therefore his decision making abilities come into question.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Crap like this is why we have a strict policy on off duty carry. Holsters have to be approved or you can't carry it. It's got to have some type of retention. Can't drink while armed. etc.

Need a list of approved dance moves.

I thought Disco died July 12, 1979...? Retro Saturday Night, perhaps?

Seriously, I guess it was not a retention holster.