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The Ice Cream Man
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I just order a couple from my local true value. Going to put one by the stove, and the other by the smoker.

Made sense, as they’re supposed to be easy to clean up. Seems like people might be less inclined to hesitate to use them, especially if they really do clean up easily.

(And I still need to get back in the habit of keeping an open box of salt around/a big jar of it.)

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A can of shaving cream works well for a stove fire.
 
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I just order a couple from my local true value. Going to put one by the stove, and the other by the smoker.

Made sense, as they’re supposed to be easy to clean up. Seems like people might be less inclined to hesitate to use them, especially if they really do clean up easily.

(And I still need to get back in the habit of keeping an open box of salt around/a big jar of it.)

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Any idea what's in it? MSDS sheet? I'd also bet that it's got a plastic nozzle instead of metal, which is what prompted the Kidde fire extinguisher recall a year or two ago. If you push the valve and it doesn't work, make sure you've got an alternative.
 
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I keep a good fire extinguisher under the sink, but these look like a good complement. I may grab a couple for the garage and smoker.



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Cooks country just did a test on 4-5 kitchen extinguishers.

They found that the Kidde extinguisher did the best job,
I will see
If it is on the www.

It is on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vh82dqmpVo

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I will be mounting a 10# ABC on the far wall, I thought these made sense as something to try first, if a lid/jar of salt isnt working/cannot be gotten to.
 
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C02 does a fine job of putting out a fire. Halon does an even better job. Its not cheap, but clean up is even easier. Dry chemical makes such a mess you might have been even better off letting the damn thing burn. Probably no way to get enough water to the action to make a difference. Could be the best answer is to just put a lid on the pan. Calling the local FD will insure the fire has a good start when they get out of bed and drive there.

Some extinguishers will blast the fire so effectively the entire kitchen will be ablaze all over the place. Maybe not so great an idea. Some one stated something about plastic nozzles. That seems a bad idea. Take all that from a guy with a 40 year old Halon thing in his jeep. Yes, with a metal fitting on the top. A buddy I respect as an expert on things "fire" says halon or even CO2 will work about forever if the pressure gauge is good. Maybe dry chem is OK if its got metal fittings. I don't trust Plastic. You might be better off cleaning up residue from an extinguisher than burned cabinets, etc.

So you're down to the best answer being not let the fire start to begin with. Calling 911 is better than you tossing a pan of water at it and evenly distributing the flames all over. Most people have no clue (about a lot of things) how to use an extinguisher. They're better off spending their few seconds calling 911 than anything else. The problem being the locals are asleep if "professional" or having a beer if volunteer. You can probably cook burgers or hot dogs on the cinders before they can get there.

There was a commercial with the punch line "pay me now or pay me later". Small extinguishers don't work long enough to get the job done. Larger ones are too expensive and too big to be practical. Except that once you've had or seen a house fire, you'll realize its time to compromise on "bigger is better". That and better is better, too. Thinking about it, I've only got 2 extinguishers in the house. One a fairly large halon the other a similarly sized dry chem. I haven't tried to shake the dry one in a while, like years. It could easily be a lump of who knows what. Been sitting so long it could have turned to diamond by now.

If nothing else, you can blast a 6 pack with CO2 and get cold beer out of it.

Back to basics: the only ones you can count on are halon and CO2 and then only if the gauges work and show good. For young folks, anything you've just bought will maybe work. For us old folks, devices nearly as old as us can't be reliably depended on. They're not like booze that lasts forever, but we do treat them that way. Don't use water on a grease or electrical fire. It could just make things worse, and they're already bad.


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Soaking wet bath towel or blanket
 
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I keep a good fire extinguisher under the sink,


I was instructed by my local FD to keep the extinguisher near an exit. That way there if I retrieve the extinguisher and the fire won't extinguish I can escape.
 
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It might be sodium bicarb (baking soda). It does work fairly well on fires, but it can ruin electronics, especially computers.

I second the idea of keeping a serious fire extinguisher - a big one - by the door.

I've used household fire extinguishers twice, once on a car fire, once on the corner of a barn that was just starting to catch from a nearby grass fire. Both times they turned out to much too small. The ones I have now are about the same diameter as a bowling ball.
 
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I don't have any of these yet, but they appear to be effective and require little or no clean up.

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The extinguisher is kind of like a road flare. You ignite it and the "smoke" snuffs out the fire. Manufacturer says it is harmless to inhale and doesn't starve the fire of oxygen, but works to somehow chemically interfere with combustion.
 
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Soaking wet bath towel or blanket


They sell fire blankets. They work really well on a kitchen fire and are a great thing to keep under the kitchen sink.

If it's a grease fire, you certainly don't want to use water. CO2 extinguishers are only fairly effective on a kitchen fire. ABC rated is most effective but makes a huge mess and is corrossive to items.
 
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Soaking wet bath towel or blanket


Not on a stove top fire, or an electrical fire.

The #1 way to put out a stove top fire is just to put a lid on the pot of pan that's burning. If you don't have a lid just use a baking sheet.

As for these I've never seen them used. Probably a good first aid firefighting method. Remember if you can't put the fire out in the first few seconds of trying and it's spreading, you need to get out.




 
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Good ideas about Halon and CO2. As for the insults to every professional and volunteer Firefighter on the planet, stick it up your hemorrhoid ass and rotate on it.
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C02 does a fine job of putting out a fire. Halon does an even better job. Its not cheap, but clean up is even easier. Dry chemical makes such a mess you might have been even better off letting the damn thing burn. Probably no way to get enough water to the action to make a difference. Could be the best answer is to just put a lid on the pan. Calling the local FD will insure the fire has a good start when they get out of bed and drive there.

Some extinguishers will blast the fire so effectively the entire kitchen will be ablaze all over the place. Maybe not so great an idea. Some one stated something about plastic nozzles. That seems a bad idea. Take all that from a guy with a 40 year old Halon thing in his jeep. Yes, with a metal fitting on the top. A buddy I respect as an expert on things "fire" says halon or even CO2 will work about forever if the pressure gauge is good. Maybe dry chem is OK if its got metal fittings. I don't trust Plastic. You might be better off cleaning up residue from an extinguisher than burned cabinets, etc.

So you're down to the best answer being not let the fire start to begin with. Calling 911 is better than you tossing a pan of water at it and evenly distributing the flames all over. Most people have no clue (about a lot of things) how to use an extinguisher. They're better off spending their few seconds calling 911 than anything else. The problem being the locals are asleep if "professional" or having a beer if volunteer. You can probably cook burgers or hot dogs on the cinders before they can get there.

There was a commercial with the punch line "pay me now or pay me later". Small extinguishers don't work long enough to get the job done. Larger ones are too expensive and too big to be practical. Except that once you've had or seen a house fire, you'll realize its time to compromise on "bigger is better". That and better is better, too. Thinking about it, I've only got 2 extinguishers in the house. One a fairly large halon the other a similarly sized dry chem. I haven't tried to shake the dry one in a while, like years. It could easily be a lump of who knows what. Been sitting so long it could have turned to diamond by now.

If nothing else, you can blast a 6 pack with CO2 and get cold beer out of it.

Back to basics: the only ones you can count on are halon and CO2 and then only if the gauges work and show good. For young folks, anything you've just bought will maybe work. For us old folks, devices nearly as old as us can't be reliably depended on. They're not like booze that lasts forever, but we do treat them that way. Don't use water on a grease or electrical fire. It could just make things worse, and they're already bad.


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So basically, starve it of O2?

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Soaking wet bath towel or blanket


Not on a stove top fire, or an electrical fire.

The #1 way to put out a stove top fire is just to put a lid on the pot of pan that's burning. If you don't have a lid just use a baking sheet.

As for these I've never seen them used. Probably a good first aid firefighting method. Remember if you can't put the fire out in the first few seconds of trying and it's spreading, you need to get out.




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I just use a giant cup o' water....




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Remember, if you keep ABC dry chem extinguishers, to turn them over and use a rubber mallet with an appropriate level of force to get the powder to loosen from settling into a caked form on the bottom.
 
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So basically, starve it of O2?

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Soaking wet bath towel or blanket


Not on a stove top fire, or an electrical fire.

The #1 way to put out a stove top fire is just to put a lid on the pot of pan that's burning. If you don't have a lid just use a baking sheet.

As for these I've never seen them used. Probably a good first aid firefighting method. Remember if you can't put the fire out in the first few seconds of trying and it's spreading, you need to get out.


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I have one in my kitchen that I never plan to use... but ... and this could be important... it is not by the stove but on the opposite side of the kitchen from the stove....


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